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Why do people always do this? When someone has demonstrated that you were wrong, why try to pretend that you said something other than what is still right there for all of us to read? You said, "... Elohim created math and used it all over the place throughout His creation." to which I...

This is all speculation - at best. It is certainly (admittedly) extra-biblical. Further, while it is true that the Hebrews used their alphabet as numbers, this is not at all the same thing as doing mathematics. The Hebrews had no concept at all of the zero in the mathematical sense and as such...

Mathematics is a formal form of language that is used to communicate information about (i.e. to describe) God's creation. God definitely did not create mathematics any more than He created any other form of sound reasoning. Math is an abstraction, not a thing. The history of mathematics is...

God did not create math.

Well, of course that is the exact point. What is observed cannot occur in a flat Earth. You might be able to move the Sun across a flat Earth and make it look right for people in a particular location but then it would look wildly, measurably, noticeably different to others. As I said, the...

You know there's a way for you to directly measure the curvature of the Earth, if you have the time to put into doing it. I've mentioned it before but perhaps when you find yourself with a lot of free time, we can discuss it and figure out the details on how to pull it off.

None of which comport with reality! It's a very simple experiment to do, Dave. It takes a little time but it isn't hard to do. An even easier thing to do is to go outside on any clear morning for the next several days and weeks. If you go outside before Sunrise, you can see Saturn, Mars and...

David, you don't need him to prove it. You can prove it yourself in a single day with any camera that will take even a thirty second long exposure, which is pretty much any digital camera in existence. The celestial pole does not move (actually it does but very slightly over hundreds of years -...

Once again, you can stop with the IDIOTIC photographic arguments. It convinces no one other than those who haven't the faintest idea how cameras work. With the right wide angle lens you can make the same horizon look convex, concave or flat all from the exact same location. It's simply a matter...

Want to know why I get angry when you fools associate the flat-earth stupidity with Christianity? This is why... https://youtu.be/QhibN89WJtI WARNING! This video contains cussing and insults. He repeatedly calls the maker of the video he's responding to by the name "Cletus", which happens to...

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Please explain. What research are you doing, specifically? Each video has a theme. The first was basically about the map issue, another has to do with the night sky, etc. Have you watched any of the others? There is no need to respond to every point he makes individually. Besides, as I've said...

Can I take this first post of yours to mean that all of the dozens of arguments that were presented in the original thread were all ignored? I'm not at all interested in starting completely over from scratch just doing a repeat of the first thread. This new thread only exists because we were...

So happy to see a new thread started! I've been super busy the last few days but will be back to posting as soon as time allows. Clete

I think all of this can be basically responded to by simply pointing out that gravity pulls on the center of mass of any object, regardless of how many pieces there are or the relative masses of those pieces or how rigidly they are held together (so long as they are indeed held together). And...

Right Divider already said this but just for good measure... I understand what you're getting at but it just isn't correct, or at least you aren't saying it right. East and West are defined in a very specific way and going straight east or west, by definition, means that you are not getting...

If you go straight west from Chicago, you won't ever get even one inch closer to the equator than when you started the trip, (never mind Antarctica). And speaking of the equator, isn't that a line that goes all the way around the world without hitting Patrick's "ice wall"?

Saying it doesn't make it so, Patrick. There are literally thousands of things that circumnavigate the globe every couple of hours. Thousands! All day. Everyday. There have been hundreds of people travel all the way around the world over the last couple of centuries. Different people in...

Interesting question. It also pulls each piece of the satellite individually. The "pieces" aren't as rigidly held together but they do still act as a whole. In fact, the ocean is just one piece of the Earth. The ground is pulled on by the Moon just as the ocean is. The reason you notice it...

Patrick really ought not be permitted to deluge the thread in this manner. I can't even find one of the images that I want to respond to. He makes basically one sentence arguments but takes up 1000 times the bandwidth and almost entirely to no avail. He clearly isn't even expecting anyone to...