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  1. Clete

    Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric (Electric Universe Theory)

    I'm calling you a liar because you're pretending that all this is beneath you somehow when the truth is that you've got nothing in answer to the relatively simple idea put forward in these videos. You pretend that they need to present rigorous math in these videos when you know that they do not...
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    Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric (Electric Universe Theory)

    Lately, I've mentioned the Electric Universe Theory in several of my posts and I've been thinking about starting a thread to introduce the theory to more people and to discuss the topic in more detail but haven't been able to decide how best to start. Then the folks over at The Thunderbolts...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    A friend of a friend of mine took these photos of the eclipse. Epic photos! Click on them for a larger version.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You cannot imagine how difficult a shot this was to get! It's flat out crazy amazing! If the guy who took the photo was just a few miles away from where he was, the photo would have been impossible and the space station would have moved across the face of the moon in only a few seconds. Not only...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This video needs to be in this thread....
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    The Ethics of Ayn Rand - John Piper

    Well, I finally found something written by a Calvinist with which I can agree, at least mostly anyway.... The Ethics of Ayn Rand Appreciation and Critique by John Piper June 1, 1979 Revised October 9, 2007 In the late seventies, I went on an Ayn Rand craze. I read most of her works...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Okay! That's it. I'm done with this stupidity. All I've done by giving this thread the time of day was to cement you into the most mindless idiotic nonsense imaginable. You ARE stupid if you believe one single word of the above quoted post makes even the tiniest bit of sense and your are...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I don't think you can define something in terms of its negation. You don't get to make such assertions without making the argument. This naked assertion rings in my mind as one of the dumbest things I've ever read! Let's just think this through for a second. If saying that everything moves is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Because God is smart enough to write a book that will make sense to His intended audience. The Bible states that the Sun stood still because that's precisely what it would have looked like was happening. And in fact, relative to the ground-based observer, that is what was happening. Motion is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I think the answer is, "Yes" but it depends on just what you mean by "exactly the same way". The reason we see Venus is because sunlight is bouncing off of it and into our eyes. The Moon is essentially the same but it is also partial illuminated by what is referred to as "Earthshine" which is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Okay. I'd prefer you be convinced but I'll take what I can get.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You're telling me that these guys are doing this without government grants and/or tax subsidies or some other form of socialistic/fascist interference from the United States government!? If it's true, I totally love it! I love free market capitalism. Great minds, thinking really big thoughts...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If you want to know what planet actually look like through a telescope, watch the following video.... https://youtu.be/QB7iGe04eAA A few minutes in, the camera shooting the video had the telescope in the foreground and both Jupiter and Venus in the back ground. At 4:25 look at what Venus looks...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Dave, We've been over this. Both of the images are OUT OF FOCUS!!!! Those concentric circles you see in the first image of Venus (if it even is Venus at all) are caused by tiny aberrations in the lens or mirror on the telescope. My bet is he's using a Schmidt/Cassegrain reflector and that...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I've always hated how modern Christians are so quick to discard science, which is to tacitly discard reason. It's one thing to reject a scientific theory or even a whole field of science on the basis of a flawed premise but there is a gigantic anti-intellectualistic movement within the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    All true except that what I was suggesting, but failing to communicate, was that even in the flat earth model that wants to say that sun rays spread out the way they do because the sun is close, it isn't so close that the apparent angles involved would not be at least partially due to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Who would pay for such a thing? That is to say, satellites are expensive to both launch and to maintain; who foots the bill for providing the infrastructure that makes fast internet service available to everyone?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Excellent post! The distances you mentioned are, I assume, based purely on the apparant angle of the rays and do not take perspective into account. In fact, that would have to be the case or else your distances would work out to be many millions of miles and not a few thousand. I'm going to do...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I wonder how the powers that be, who created and perpetuate the globe-earth propaganda machine, slipped up and allowed the Denver Post to publish such a story or, for that matter, how, after centuries and centuries of successfully fooling everyone from kings to pessants the world over, managed...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes, the video did say precisely that, David! Who are you trying to kid here? What exactly was the video attempting to say if not that the Sun had clouds both in front of and behind the Sun? How could that happen if the Sun wasn't at the same elevation as the clouds? If the Sun wasn't...
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