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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I changed the file format to jpg and added the new image to the posts. If you now see two links, click the second one and see if it works.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    It's works for me. Is anyone else not getting it? How do these guys get the big image inside their post?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You might need to play around with the settings (there's a lot of them). You want to make sure the font color is one that will show up well against the sky, etc.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Due west @ 21:00 hours (02:00 UTC) @ my back yard (click on image for full sized pic)... The greenish light on the right is a large yard light in my neighbor's yard (I hate it!) Notice the position of the Sun shown by the app nearly off the right side of the screen about -10° or so below the...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Umm, I've got bats flying around in my back yard already. It's gonna be dark as can be in an hour where I live.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay 1:00 UCT from my back yard (click the image to see it full sized)... Notice that I have the camera pointed very nearly at the real horizon rather than at the tree tops in the distance. The app I was using shows the position of the Sun when I took the photo which was just -.2 degrees...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    One more suggestion... Again, if you're using an iPhone, you can download an app called Spyglass. Its a compass app that allows you to take screen shots that look like this... It has all the data on the image, including the exact time and precise directional heading and location. That way...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you have an iPhone, the clock app on the home screen will tell you what time it is UTC. Here in Texas, we're 5 hours behind UTC which means 01:00 UTC is 20:00 CDT here. Knight, would you prefer the camera oriented vertically or horizontally? (I'll take one both ways.) Also, for...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Quite right! There NO WAY that the Sun or Moon should ever even appear to be larger on the horizon if the flat earth silliness is true.
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, the Sun was not huge. It may have seemed huge to you but it was precisely - PRECISELY - the same size in the sky as it always is. Same goes for the Moon. It does not change size when closer to the horizon - period. The reason it seems otherwise occasionally is because, when it is closer to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Oh, I know that the connections you're making aren't actually vague and disparate but that is Patrick's accusation against you, isn't it? I'm just pointing out the irony of a conspiracy theory lunatic objecting to something on the basis of, "For the life of me I can't see how your mind makes...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So, if I'm following this correctly, Patrick, Mr. Conspiracy Theory himself, is objecting to your making vague and unsubstantial connections between things that would, in the mind of a rational person, be disparate and unrelated. Have I got that right?
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    How we know the distance between the Earth and the Sun (and by extention, the size of Earth's orbit and it's average orbital speed)... http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/41-our-solar-system/the-earth/orbit/87-how-do-you-measure-the-distance-between-earth-and-the-sun-intermediate
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    So, is the contention then that the conspiracy can only be as old as Empirical measurements (e.g. inches, feet, miles, etc.) have been in common use? I don't remember Eratosthenes being English? :confused: Oh and, by the way, the Earth doesn't tilt at anything close to 66.6° and never has...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here is the math for the curvature of the Earth with far more precise (i.e. less rounded) numbers. The Earth's equatorial radius (r) is 3963.2 miles, based on numbers from Wikipedia. This gives a circumference (c) of c = 2 * π (3.14159265359) * r (3963.2) = 24901.520009415776 mi We wish to...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Okay. I am sorry that I "flamed out" as you put it. I wish I had deleted that post before Patrick had a chance to quote it. I'll do the experiment eventually. When I do, I'll post the results here but I'm not reading another syllable of Patrick's posts. They're far worse than anything Dave...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I'm done with this! I've asked a few people to help me with that experiment and if they agree (which I doubt) then I'll go ahead and do it but I now no longer care anything about it. You all can waste you time discussing this all you like but I've read the last syllable of this insanity that I...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Here's an updated Google Earth screen shot with the new calibration shot locations...
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