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  1. Clete

    The time has come...

    It's not her body that's being harmed. A woman who gets an abortion is guilty of murder. Every day you take yet another step toward convincing me that you're not even a Christian. No Christian could even let such a question escape his lips in a one on one conversation, never mind be posted on...
  2. Clete

    The time has come...

    The vaccines have stopped it! The only reason this current surge is happening is because of the unvaccinated. There are break through cases but they are not the drivers of this surge, not even close. Not only that but the break through cases are almost all very mild and the number of deaths due...
  3. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    There is no one who has claimed that "their shots do not harm or kill anyone". You might as well ask, "If the automobile companies can prove their cars do not harm or kill anyone then why are they not offering the proof?" This is called "moving the goalpost" and its a logical fallacy for good...
  4. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    The federal government does not have the authority to force anyone who isn't in the military to get these shots against their will, marke! What are you even talking about? There hasn't been a single civilian human being in the whole of the western world that has been forced to take these shots...
  5. Clete

    The time has come...

    You keep using that go figure (i.e. think) comment. I sure wish you'd practice what you preach! The Delta variant accounts for 98 - 99 % of all new cases both here and in England. The vast majority of people and 99.5% of those who have died of COVID since January were unvaccinated. In other...
  6. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    This is faulty logic that I am firmly convinced at this point is entirely intentional. Because natural immunity is more effective than the vaccine, doesn't mean that the vaccine is ineffective, which Marke here is clearly implying. The Pfizer vaccine is about 90% effective in preventing...
  7. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    It might be about half if you count small children. It's more like 70 percent of adults and that number does not account for the people with natural immunity. And there are several ways to know how much it helps. In fact that very number you cite are discovered in a similar way. How is it that...
  8. Clete

    The time has come...

    There is very little evidence that natural immunity is any longer lasting than vaccine immunity. It is clearly more effective immunity but how long it lasts is still an open question. And the vaccine has, in fact, saved thousands and thousand of lives.
  9. Clete

    The time has come...

    You're lying. Prove it. Actually, don't bother. I won't read it. Welcome to my ever growing ignore list.
  10. Clete

    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Hopeless. When you respond to the argument I've made rather than simply repeating your position, we can continue. Otherwise, I'm bored.
  11. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    There was no government demand that anyone acceded to. It was made available and people wanted to go get it so they did and far few people are dead today because of it.
  12. Clete

    The time has come...

    More openly false fear mongering. There has not been, nor is there likely to be a government mandated shot. Who knows and who cares? It isn't relevant. They will certainly be able to make far more of an argument in your hypothetical court room than you have on this real thread.
  13. Clete

    The time has come...

    Of course we can! There is a field of study called statistics. Maybe you've heard of it. If you know the rate of infection and death rate of those both with and without the vaccine then you can know quite well how many lives have been saved. Of course your sample size is important. I figure...
  14. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Lie! Marke is a liar! He know for a fact that this is false because unless to too stupid to breath, everyone knows that something like 70% of the adult population of the United States and a huge percentage of the civilized world has gotten this shot will very little (statistically speaking) ill...
  15. Clete

    The time has come...

    There are hundred of millions of people who got that shot and did not die, Marke. Pretty nearly everyone you know has gotten the shot and didn't die from it. And no one has deny that there have been people die shortly after having gotten the shot but there has been no arguments made that...
  16. Clete

    The time has come...

    Then by all means refute them!!! Good god, man! What are we even here for if not to actually debate! Make the arguments, if you can! The fact that you refuse to do so is only so much evidence that you know your position is flat out nonsense.
  17. Clete

    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Are you seriously unable to follow simple converstion? I was saying that your personal opinions do nothing to advance your case. Your desire to differ does not trump the explicit teaching of God's word! The point is that you need to do something more than merely state your position and pull...
  18. Clete

    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Of course, yes there is denying it. There is actually very little evidence that tells us anything about the number of such deaths that had anything to do with the shot they received. A point that has been made here before and that you have routinely ignored and/or responded to by simply...
  19. Clete

    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    That's your response? What a pathetic joke. A subtantive discussion that last all of two whole posts. Yippee! Once again, your dogma blinds you to God's word! Even the verses you quote are ripped out of their context and are used to defend things that they say nothing at all about. You do this...
  20. Clete

    The time has come...

    There are only two classes of people in the entire world. Those who have been fully vaccinated and those who have not been fully vaccinated. Please explain how the only two classes of people who exist can add up to a total of 11.97% of those who have tested positive. Where are are the other...
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