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    Calvinism: A declaration that God is Unjust and Jesus is a Failure

    Calvinism is nothing at all but "Reformed" Augustinian doctrine. The belief that everything is predestined and its ancillary doctrines are all based on the idea that God is immutable, a belief that Augustine of Hippo learned from Plato and later imported into the Catholic church having used the...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    As of September 7, 2021, more than 176 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19. During the same time, CDC received reports from 49 U.S. states and territories of 14,115 patients with COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infection who were hospitalized or died...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Yes, I looked at the links and the say things like "the date cannot be confirmed". Look, I'm not saying its false, I'm saying that I don't trust it. I'm as right wing of a Christian as you're likely to find. I hate the killing of babies as much as anyone else but I've seen some otherwise well...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Excellent question! I repent!
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    I what universe is this in any way responsive to what I said?
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    I've seen similar arguments. I'm not sure I accept your premise. It is dubious at best. Name a vaccine - any vaccine or other drug that does not use similar technology or haven't you bothered to look that up? The HEK293 cell line supposedly originated from a healthy aborted child in the...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    I honestly can no longer tell if you're simply stupid or what? "Vaccinated Americans have gotten covid and died." SO WHAT? There hasn't ever been anyone - ANYONE - ever claim that no one who takes the vaccine will ever come down with COVID. No one in the government, no one at Pfizer and no one...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    I've stopped obsessing over COVID numbers because they never move anyone an inch off of their position and so its a waste of time to bother with it. Even if I concede your numbers, there is still no denying that the vaccines certainly were effective for a time - for several months at least...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Until you, I've never seen anyone make the accusation against ANY vaccine other than the J&J vaccine and I tried for days to confirm it and was unable to do so and then as quickly as the story popped up, it went away. As a result, I am very skeptical of that accusation even in the case of the...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Hoorah! Lots of Christians have been murdered waiting on God to put down despotic governments. All I'm saying is that if a civil war starts here the likelihood is, just based on history, that you and I will be numbered among the murdered. As such, the government we have, as corrupt as it is, is...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    You seem to be doing a bang up job! Who was Peter's audience? Hint: Not you!
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Seriously? Are you really incapable of thinking this through for yourself? First of all, I never made that claim but I don't care about that because you seem basically incapable of having a rational discussion. I have no doubt that your twisted, willful ignorant mind managed somehow to...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Yet another truism that has been preached for almost as long as the country has existed.
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Bob Enyart, the man who has had the single most important impact in my life, just died of COVID you slobber mouthed idiot! How is it that you are allowed to persist in these lies! I have covered up nothing! You are actively trying to get people killed by neadlessly scaring people off of a...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Liar. I know that MRNA vaccines have been being worked on since the 90s and that the fetal tissue rumor was started against the J&J vaccine that has nothing to do with MRNA.
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    And they're the ones you're counting on to take your side in a revolution. On what planet does that make any sense?
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    A verse that has been quote, completely out of its proper context, for centuries and millennia before there was ever anything like the United States of America. And if there is anyone who is willfully ignorant here it is you. Don't forget, Marke, that this whole thread and the two or three...
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Saying it doesn't make it so, liar!
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Who here has denied that obvious truth?! You are such a liar! Far more people without the vaccine are in hospitals right now with COVID. FAR more! People who have recieved the vaccine are far less likely to end up in the hospital or to even get sick much less die.
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    Far Better To Build Immune System than Count on Vaccines

    Not so. Not even close to being the case in anything remotely resembling reality. So because because a broken clock is right twice a day, you can trust the broken clock! Is that really what you think? I've never suggested that anyone should trust the government and so what the left wants...
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