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Except it doesn't say that! Take the Romans 12 verse, for example. It has nothing to do with what b57 is talking about here..... Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your...

Why oh why doesn't b57 tell you the rest of the story? Those that Calvin's god doesn't "cause to repent" go on doing what Calvin's god predestined they would do anyway. Then, when they die, they are sent to eternal punishment for doing the very things that they did not choose to do but which...

No "Divine Promise" (why would those words need to be capitalized???) was ever sure in the idiotic sense that Calvinists want to pretend except to those who love God and respond to Him in faith. No, not even the nation of Israel was guaranteed anything. In Exodus 32 God is set to destroy Israel...

Outrageous stupidity from every angle. It's an argument that doesn't follow even from its own premises and it is based on false premises to begin with!

Truth is not contradictory and your doctrine is so contradictory it's laughable. Therefore, your doctrine is not the truth. Therefore, by your own testimony, you are not saved!

How could he answer it? It is, for them, just one more word, one more concept, that has no meaning when applied to God.

Bob was simply the greatest bible teacher of our generation.

Saying it doesn't make it so. You established no such thing. Not even close. You're the only person I've ever heard of who even believes such a thing. No, not in the church - lower case 'c'. I do not worship the church nor am I identified by it. No, there is no Jew or Gentile in regards to...

So all of that was almost entirely unresponsive to the point. It seems you look for opportunity to focus on semantics and run off onto rabbit trails so as to avoid the issue at hand. The point is, that the New Covenant has nothing to do with you or any other believer today. It cannot even be...

Brilliant brilliant post, JR! Do you suppose that the concept of God PLEADING through us just flew right over b57's head or do you think he got the point and simply ignored it? I mean you even put it in bold AND underlined it, not to mention how you highlighted the word "WORLD" and yet, he just...

In this post, b57 demonstrates his proclivity toward lying. He hasn't done this in some time and so I had hoped he had repented of such practices but he's fallen off the wagon with this post when he suggests that the only logical alternative to Limited Atonement is Universalism. He knew that...

Translation: "Ignore everything the bible says about who God is, what sort of person He is and anything else that might pertain to the topic at hand a look only at the single verse that I wish to use as a proof text for one of my pet doctrines that cannot be established in any other way."...

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish...

Proof texting is fun! The same sort of techniques are used by every "Christian" cult leader known to history. I remember back in the 90s, there was a TV show put on by a lunatic murderer who called himself "Yahweh Ben Yahweh". The entire show was one example after another of exactly the sort...

You don't have to believe in what I'm talking about to believe that David Koresh was a "sinning Messiah" either. So what? I do not believe you. You didn't read it and don't care to read it. If you want people to simply say "yes" or "no" or some other single syllable response to the things you...

Only if you read your doctrine into the text. Sort of the opposite of enlightening since you have to already have that in your head to get it out of the text.

Short answer to a complex question is.... The new covenant is (was) with believing Israel and is described in detail in Hebrews (which was written to.......wait for it........the Hebrews!). We are not partakers of that covenant because we are not Jews. There aren't any Jews any longer, at...

You did a terrific job on this but I wanted to expand on the above quoted passage. Notice the last sentence (verses 13-14).... Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy...

Translation: "I'm too lazy to read even far enough to realized that every major point made was established with scripture and I sure as Hell can't be bothered to spend so much time away from my video games to actually respond with any substance anyway so don't bother writing anything in...

"Truth" with a capital 'T' as though your doctrine is God Himself. Are you capable of NOT blaspheming? Not everything you said in your post was false. Much of it is normal, biblical Christian doctrine but it was obvious enough that what you were getting at was the doctrine of limited atonement...