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  1. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    That's not an answer. The record in the bible is clear. Esau never once served his brother Isaac. It flatly did not happen. So, I ask you again, was God wrong or are you?
  2. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    The elder never served the younger, Marke! The elder (Esau) never ever served the younger (Jacob). It just never happened. So was God wrong or are you? Further, Romans 9 is not about those two boys and its not about predestination. It's about Israel and why it was cut off. I establish what...
  3. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    So, nothing anyone says, no matter how reasonable or rational or substantive moves you an inch off of any doctrine you happen to believe. What makes you any better than b57? If you're not convinced, that's one thing. Blowing off everything that's been said as though we didn't say anything is...
  4. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    There's tons of things that God can know about someone before they are born. For one thing He knows every detail of a child's DNA, which determines so much about what sort of person the child will be. DNA determines much more than just physical characteristics like hair and eye color but also...
  5. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    No. The future does not exist for Him to see. God knows everything He wants to know of that information which is knowable. He is also optimally intelligent, wise, skilled and powerful and so it isn't difficult for God to not only predict future events but also to decide what He wants to...
  6. Clete

    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Except the ability to communicate and use your mind, which you cannot do without borrowing from the Christian worldview. Yes, I said that correctly. Every intelligible syllable you utter tacitly borrows from the Christian worldview. Your ability to read this sentence borrows from the Christian...
  7. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    I don't think God has the ability to do that either.
  8. Clete

    Constitutional Monarchy

    Okay, first of all, I want to acknowledge the time you spent writing this very long post and I want to make clear that my brief response is not about me blowing off anything you've said but only my attempt to focus the discussion and to sort of reset the length of the posts so that the responses...
  9. Clete

    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    No question, there are indeed groups of people who are "elect". The Calvinist interpretation of this would make God unjust and is therefore clearly false and simply ridiculous really. Well, yes, but not in the way the Calvinists mean it. One becomes one of the elect if and when you believe...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    The cited verse doesn't teach the doctrine he espouses here. Hebrews 9:14 doesn't speak about the blood of Christ doing something to us as though it were some sort of magic spell cast on us against our will or absent our knowledge and consent. It, just like everything else b57 has presented, is...
  11. Clete

    Is Mr. Jordan Peterson a false prophet or ravenous wolf?

    Why would I ever want to represent Catholicism? I am not a Catholic nor would I ever want to be accidentally thought of as being Catholic. Catholics believe one unbiblical and contradictory doctrine after another. There are very definitely a great many Catholics who are saved Christians but they...
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    Is Mr. Jordan Peterson a false prophet or ravenous wolf?

    Saying it doesn't make it so. No, it isn't. The sky is blue, not red. The clouds can reflect red light during sunrise and sunset but the clouds aren't the sky. Except that it's true and the others aren't. You flatly don't know what you're talking about. Christianity, that is actually biblical...
  13. Clete

    Jesus is God !

    I just saw a link to the thread on the home page and started reading. I saw Keypurr's post and just reacted. I didn't notice how old it was until after I had already hit the post button. At least the guy made an argument, though! I wish I had seen the post back then. Maybe I could have...
  14. Clete

    Jesus is God !

    You are not a christian!
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    Is Mr. Jordan Peterson a false prophet or ravenous wolf?

    It has nothing to do with my imagination. It has nothing to do with my opinions. It has nothing to do with anyone's opinions because it isn't a matter of opinion. People have their opinions but they're no more a reflection of the truth than if someone had the opinion that the sky was red. In...
  16. Clete

    Is Mr. Jordan Peterson a false prophet or ravenous wolf?

    Nobody cares, nor should they care what being saved is to you. It very simply is not a matter of opinion. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the...
  17. Clete

    Received because Given !

    Liar. I did answer the question and you know it. What a buffoonish clown you are.
  18. Clete

    Received because Given !

    Not once single syllable of even the yanked out of context verses that b57 cited here say anything whatsoever about the flatly idiotic doctrine of Regeneration! If you want to know how a cultist is able to pull the nut job wacko doctrines they teach out of the bible, all you have to do is read...
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    Received because Given !

    You are such a hypocrite! How many hundreds of times have you failed to even respond at all to direct questions? You routinely ignore practically every word that is said to you! As I said before, you don't know how to ask questions that aren't loaded. Why focus such a question on just one...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    No, the tree we're talking about is Israel. (See Luke 16:3-9) Try to keep up.
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