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  1. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    Yeah, I agree with you, or lack thereof, but He is worthy of our correct apprehension of Him and He certainly has written to us a text that we can depend on. If one grasps the text, then one can grasp what it says rightly. In some ways, I'm glad of the discussion but those who have...
  2. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    It is 'one' way to reconcile the difference, but is it accurate to scripture? As far as I grasp scriptures, no. You are confusing a proper Noun with an adjective: God vs godly. The scripture presents Jesus as "God" a noun John 20:28 For the most part, those without grammar educations...
  3. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    So and what???? It is 'excuse.' The Pharisees DID think that and picked up stones. Jesus also said "Before Abraham was" THEN "I Am." Do you unitarains/arians actually ever get good grades in English and have studied any foreign languages????? It doesn't appear so (to date, ever).
  4. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    No, you really haven't. You've simply read your bible for that long. There is a HUGE difference between reading AND HAVING THE TOOLS. You are a biblical tinkerer. I'll catch your years here shortly, but WHAT WE DID WITH THEM is of incredibly greater importance than their passage. You get...
  5. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    Incorrect. "When you have seen me, you have SEEN the Father." Do YOU actually grasp that? You cannot wave a wand or a hand-wave dismissal like all Unitarians/Arians TRY to do. It cannot be done. YOU rob the Son. YOU do. Just as I, YOU will stand before Him, COMPLETELY without this...
  6. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    So 'the Glory I had with you before the world' means nothing to you. As I said, 1) untenable scripturally, and 2) ignores and harms scripture truths. That onus is upon you. Trinitarians don't do this. You can try, but we embrace EVERY scripture. Unitarians/Arians? Trample, severely.
  7. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    So instead of grasping his point, you treat the subject and him with childish reverse psychology. If you are this inept? Forgiven. If you really understood his 'casting pearls' statement, it was to not throw something at another's feet (like the PRECIOUS blood of Jesus), for it to be...
  8. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    See? It literally tries to 'teach' me something (wrongly and ineptly) but asks nothing of me at all. Worse? It treats the blood of Jesus and the problem of sin with complete contempt AND embrace of those sins. The UB is demonic, satanic. The Son wrestled in the Garden until great drops of...
  9. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    I've often seen well-meaning Trinitarians arguing even against their own 'arian' part, so understand some of your frustration. It makes them often, at least functionally tritheists. Because of that, there is often confusion on just and exactly where we agree and where we disagree. The...
  10. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    We (I) don't ignore them. It is why I'm half Arian. I do see those scripture YET whatever conclusion I come to MUST incorporate "My Lord and my God." It simply must. There is no way to not do that without robbing Him of His rightful claims. I definitely don't want to be the one that...
  11. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    I'm not Jewish. I simply knew and know that the God of Israel is the only God. So does the Urantia, btw, they didn't start a new rendition of God, they just reinvented, literally, the parts they didn't like or thought were inappropriate. I did the opposite: I wrested with God, like Jacob...
  12. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    It is. It isn't a doctrine of 'knowing it all' but a doctrine eschewing overt assumption that CLEARLY tramples other scriptures in the process. You and Modalists are exact opposites on Biblical scripture, trampling each other's 'proof texting' but never grasping both of you 'rationalize'...
  13. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    What an accusation! How many kids are alive today because you exist on the planet? I'm not trying to do comparisons, just trying to get you to stop your 'business as usual' knee-jerk reaction and actually contemplate another's view. Too introverted for that? You aren't going to listen...
  14. Lon

    The Late Great Urantia Revelation

    No, it is just that I was alive at that time. The 'hippy' movement is the 'New Age' movement. The movement is fraught with sentiment first, truth later, as is the UB. Jesus told the Samaritan woman she needed to Worsip in truth AND Spirit, not just reject out of sentimentality. The UB...
  15. Lon

    Prayers during Epidemic

    Many are doing this collectively through broadcasts as well. Not sure if that meets your 'together' litmus though?
  16. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    It wasn't a very good answer. He and other Unitarians just don't understand grammatical rules. I have to have a bit of grace, but certainly don't have a lot of patience for purposefully obtuse ignorance. It really bothers me when it is this incredibly willful. While not everybody does...
  17. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    Sure there would be and without any kind of problem understanding He was standing there with them, at the time. Do you see that? No, it doesn't. It simply puts Himself in the context of those times but this part is speculative. What is clear, is that 'before' - 'Am.' It is...
  18. Lon

    What is Jesus saying here?

    Its mutual, but I'm not the usurper. You are, and without the where-with-all. Why do you guys all think platitudes are enough? Why even argue these points with Trinitarians? Isn't it because of YOUR contentious nature(s)? Isn't it? 🤔 I'm not the one with burden of proof. You are...
  19. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    Are you actually capable of passing a Language Arts class? You are simply wrong. "Before" and "AM" mean something specific and MUST point to reason and a cause for that reason. In a word, you are 'wrong.' It is that clear. No, and I'm not sure you even know what 'projecting' means. I'm...
  20. Lon

    Jesus is God !

    At the risk of being pedantic, EVERY bible scholar already knows what it means and has read Job many times. YOU, on the other hand, are taking a LONG way around to try to say something you likely know next to nothing about. I don't have to 'trick' rationalization out of someone. That is a...
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