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  1. Lon

    The Sound of Freedom

    Listen: If I didn't know you, I would have thought, from your initial posts, you were! Insulting? Agree! It'd be insulting and you NEVER want to be seen that way. Unjustified? Can I do a few initial quotes of yours in thread from you? They did not look good AB. Didn't JR feel he...
  2. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Incorrect. Gravity describes 'how' things interact. "How things interact" is the definition of 'force.' You can say Gravity isn't just a force ala https://www.universetoday.com/108740/how-we-know-gravity-is-not-just-a-force/ If you read there, 'gravity warps' (a force). Also read here...
  3. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I think he was 'being clever' that balloons (he neglected 'helium'), clouds, gases, birds, airplanes, aren't affected by gravity. Or are they? Does rain, rain up? 🤔 Can an unmoving cloud or airplane or bird remain in the sky (no, other forces are 'defying' gravity)? Our atmosphere (1...
  4. Lon

    Can a Christian lose their salvation

    "No True Scotsman!" Simply because: 1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they were of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out so that it might be revealed that they were not all of us. Very clear, if they do, they weren't. This particular...
  5. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    He didn't. He agreed with you and said it couldn't be. While you both agreed, 'how' it applies to need or not need a flat earth is important. It'll further along your conversation if you recognize you and he 'agreed.' That was the 'ouch.' As a preliminary, if you are standing on the...
  6. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    I'm not sure you do disagree completely: At this point, it is actually definitions categorized differently. I 'think' the only thing we are really disagreeing on is not so much the definition, but how each plays in the definition. In this case, I believe 'action' is the carrier of love. As...
  7. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Wasn't easy to hear. Wise as serpent/gentle as doves. "Do not resist an evil man." As I'd read scripture, see more just below. This hurt back then. You'd placed all of my work in a church on a rejection slip. I 'was' a good pastor (carpentry now, I make more $ at it and had to care...
  8. Lon

    Our Moral God

    When we first discussed in 2016 "Is God Moral?" we actually ended on the same page so I'm going to apologize for this a year ago. I forgot we left agreeing. That being the case, this likely is just because we start on a project thinking differently. Put in place of 'logic'' math. Math is...
  9. Lon

    Ukraine Crisis

    Russians don't like losing (reason for the war in the first place, they lost the coop to have a dictatorship): https://www.britannica.com/event/2022-Russian-invasion-of-Ukraine
  10. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    ESPECIALLY if you missed the point o,O
  11. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    LOL, television, that's funny right there! I'm not sure 'long' does anything to add or detract from the question: Were they made 'loving?' Interesting point with no children. It couldn't have been long. Did Adam 'love' Eve? That IS the argument. Did Adam have a 'choice' to love Eve...
  12. Lon

    The Sound of Freedom

    It doesn't matter. We don't fight against someone 'when they are right.' That just becomes double-minded. It is better to 'NOT' get involved in such a thread because your message becomes "I'm against the message of the film" by association of unbalanced objection. Follow: I see a movie by...
  13. Lon

    Can a Christian lose their salvation

    Yep Even 'if' an exception (did I post enough to suggest it isn't?), it yet illustrates that God did/does give 'different' (I think a little less confusing than 'contradictory' for discussion?) directions to different people. Another example: Isaac. Definitely an enigma to ask anybody to...
  14. Lon

    My First Interesting Interaction With ChatGPT

    Except you and it had me at "hello!" I'm shocked a system can go this indepth in discussion already! My latest: Voice recognition soft war and spill checkers are way I no rob aughts are not going too tack over the world anytime sune Somewhat irenic, isn't it? I wonder if you could talk...
  15. Lon

    Merry Christmas

    Surprisingly Christ-honoring:
  16. Lon

    Have I gone MAD???

    Lol, I noticed BUT 1) I do it too AND it is usually JR that points it out! He's also a grammar nazi! (I actually appreicate the corrections because it also bugs me too) meh, we aren't perfect. I've come to also not get to hung up on some theology misapprehension. 2) I want to be 'right'...
  17. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    🆙 Clete, Specifically this: Not the 'intellect' part, I agree, rather the 'choice.' I do also agree with you qualified. Perhaps JR wants me to get a second opinion. We in sin have choice. Prior, in the Garden, I believe Adam loved completely and well 'before' he ate of the tree of...
  18. Lon

    Is Mr. Jordan Peterson a false prophet or ravenous wolf?

    Yikes! Romans 10: 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of...
  19. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    A couple more that need to be address whether I follow above or not: The tree rather represented knowledge of good and evil, specifically the difference between the two. Adam loved up 'until' the point He 'chose', not prior. He didn't just 'choose' not to eat, there was no desire. He...
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