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  1. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Thank you for your gracious patience JR!
  2. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Yes you (we) will *(and are in Christ's standing even now)! 1 John 3:2 ;)
  3. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Great verses to post a reply to Will Duffy's Open Theism verses as it touches on many of them. Ty for the quote. https://opentheism.org/verses 1) God hopes His prophecies will fail. -Awkward statement if you aren't Open Theist. It presupposes that God 'hopes.' God is unwilling that any...
  4. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I think, in the long run, Open Theists and all others who are His, have a good relationship with God. He continually is challenging us through His scriptures and life to be more like His Son. In a nutshell, 'how' we understand Who He is, is important. In that, He has given us instruction...
  5. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I believe I've addressed most of this, regarless, will do so now. I do need to go to your link and address it sufficiently and that will take a bit of the week (I'm in and out these days). There are all kinds of nuances in the O.T. alone that a cultural class in Hebrew customs and practices is...
  6. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    One of the children I supported in Zimbabwe was in this situation. We cried for two years while we continued support and no word on his well-being. Three years later he was a man , thankfully had escaped the slaughter, and we sent him to trade-school for two years. I hear you and...
  7. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    Exasperation statements do not carry a conversation. Entrench? Of course I'm entrenched. You must understand how people process. They don't have to oppose, but they are going to give you all their thoughts in opposition. I'm a slow burn. Honesty is about taking your points, giving...
  8. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    True. I'd say she doesn't know, just estimates, reasons. Which is why I'm not hung up too much. We alternately assume things based on what we believe. For what it is worth, because I believe He actively sustains the universe, I believe He is omnipresent as a necessity and omniscient as...
  9. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    It isn't that she 'needs' omniscience to know something. You are just talking about assumptions, educated extrapolation etc. I'm not saying God 'needs' omniscience to know Abraham's heart. I'm rather saying it is 'why' He knows (incidental to omniscience). If He knows the # of hairs on...
  10. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    Its a rabbit trail, not important. Because we come from God, Who is Spirit. Physical comes from a Spiritual Being. He wasn't in a universe, He created it. We likely aren't agreeing. I see our 'imago deo' as characteristics that reflect God as Spirit, not at all in our our physical makeup...
  11. Lon

    Occasional-ism “a non-Deistic understanding of the World”

    It is odd to think God exists no'where.' He exists of/in/by Himself. After creation, He is intricately involved (Colossians 1:16-20). I, a physical being continue to try and capture the truth of Father's Spirit existence, but cannot capture it but with physical constraint every time...
  12. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    Out of heaven Revelation 21:21 ??? Physical? That'd be physical and most scriptures either talking of theophanies (the Son), or figuratively. Agree on point, but Moses was not allowed to see God's 'face' (couldn't live). It makes better sense than "Now" I know.' Do I have to have it all...
  13. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Definitely, approximately, reliably? Out the gate I'd say 'no.' She may think she knows, but this is ancillary knowledge. Know is a misnomer but rather 'expectation' than actually knowing. They only way she can know is if she comes and checks and such is within the scope of what we are...
  14. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    You weren't probably reading my exchange with Clete. Strong's is good albeit an abbreviated version of Brown,Driver,Briggs, Strong's generally/mostly for casual bible readers. Pastor's do go to it first among their works, but usually when words get this attention, they begin breaking into...
  15. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Not at all. Rather it seems God 'knew' Abraham would be there. 'Knew' that Isaac was going to be there. "Now"? 🤔 Banking vs knowing complicates. What did He know? To me? Everything. It's easy. Simple. A child can understand (forgive). Rather, that it wasn't 'now.' If as...
  16. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Again, by the logic. False is fine, please correct and help reconcile a problematic implication, even for your thoughts if followed through. "'Now' I know"? Surely you must have wrestled with the same? Okay, bring it back to the text then: "Now(?) I know"??? Explain please. Please...
  17. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    This is rudimentary, obviously FB has been following my conversations and searches: https://www.facebook.com/reel/905207421452793
  18. Lon

    Occasional-ism “a non-Deistic understanding of the World”

    Not quite following but I'll mention a bit: 1) Mom said I and my brothers had 10-20 guardian angels a piece that had to tag team to keep us safe (I've had a class on angiology/pneumatology). 2) Colossians 1:16-20 Jesus, Himself sustains the universe. Your thoughts? on: 1Co 2:9 But as it is...
  19. Lon

    Why Panentheism is False.

    Ontologically, physical comes from Spirit. Spirit is intangible in any physical sense. While heaven is 'where' God dwells, it is also created. Details give us streets of gold etc. but everything is created by God. He tells David that no temple can contain Him, it is an intimation of a...
  20. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Of course, yet we all do it. All of us. We are trying to take our ideas make them work. The only difference between rational and rationalizing is what we choose to ignore. Until then, we all rationalize because we have working paradigms. When those are sufficiently challenged, we...
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