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I'm very short on time and so don't take this short response as me blowing off what you've said. Indeed, you've said here basically what I expected you to say and it is very much in keeping with what most Christians would say. What I don't understand is why you, as does practically every other...

No, I wouldn't agree with that at all. There is no need to answer theodicy (the problem of evil) because there is no problem of evil as I explained in the previous post. Theodicy is a problem that resides completely and only within the world of those who think God controls every event that...

You are simply too ignorant of the subject matter to have a constructive conversation with. Nothing you said here was even in response to anything I said or believe. It's as if you speak some foreign language and I'm not interested in taking you by the hand to teach you the 1st grade level...

God did not "permit it to happen"! On the contrary, He explicitly forbade it and punished everyone involved! Do any of you people ever stop and actually think about what your doctrine says about God or do you just give the issue lip service? GOD IS JUST!!!! That belief has consequences! If...

How do you square that with Jesus, when someone asked Him how to be saved, He told him to follow the law and when he asked Jesus to clarify which law, Jesus started listing the ten commandments? Also, how do you square that with James chapter 2 where it explicitly states that faith alone is dead?

You disagree, ostensibly based on a passage of scripture that JR just artfully removed from your use to support any such disagreement and yet you persist with your disagreement based on an appeal to popularity, which tells all of us who know how to think clearly, that your disagreement never had...

It probably took him about a week to pull it off.

That is not what it means to make an argument from silence. I suspected that this was what was happening. I'm actually revealed a bit as well because it means that you aren't just making things up out of whole clothe, which, obviously, would be far worse than simply making an error. RD has made...

Well, that's just the thing. Derf comes off to me as stubborn but not stupid. Generally speaking, it seems to be that when he posts things that have no real substance, he knows it. He, for whatever reason, feels like simple arguing is just as effective as actual rational debate, or, at the very...

Have I missed something?

Why do you keep saying this? It makes no sense. He very clearly is not making an argument from silence.

I wish more people thought along these lines and made certain decisions in a manor that didn't put them in the position to make the final call. It's so obviously wise to whittle down the options to a very few good choices and then leave the final decision up to God by the casting of lots. Maybe...

Then AMR's argument stands unrefuted. Saying it doesn't make it so.

Your crying "the Apostles" and giving it a number 4 doesn't work. It is the equivalent of AMR's option 3. Christ and then the Apostles and then those appointed by the Apostles and then those appointed by those bishops, etc, etc, etc. is "the church" (according to Catholic dogma). Thus, as AMR's...

Derf, just stop. This is bordering on an intentional lie. Just stop.

You missed the point, you stupid, slobbering moron! First of all, what you said here isn't how language works but, more importantly, my point had to do with the highlighted portion, "ALL THAT IS IN THEM". Whether God "created" them or "made" them, as if there's a difference, the point is that...

This made no sense whatsoever.

No. You've now gone pretty much totally unresponsive. Way to go, Derf! You managed to run out of substance the moment you clicked "Post reply" on one singular post! Since then, you've called into question the effectiveness of the Holy Spirit, the devoutness, ability and competence of the...

It isn't someone "deciding" anything, Derf! It's the biblical record!

What? Is this a real question? If so, it demonstrates that you and I are speaking different languages. I can find no mental path to that question. That isn't what the bible teaches, as I have already established. Your stating an opposing opinion doesn't count as a rebuttal to a biblical...