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  1. Clete

    Our Moral God

    I agree.
  2. Clete

    Our Moral God

    It would seem that His glory is the bulk of that which He emptied Himself of but I agree that the human nature was definitely added. The point that I guess I'm making is that once it was added, it didn't remain a separate thing but that it became part of who He is, that His nature (singular) is...
  3. Clete

    Our Moral God

    I go back and forth think that our difference here is semantic in nature. Jury is still out. It was more than just His body that died. HE DIED! Jesus died in every way that any other RIGHTEOUS man has ever died. His Spirit was separated from His body (physical death) and He was separated from...
  4. Clete

    Our Moral God

    What does that mean, "took on a SECOND nature"? He does not have two natures, so far as I can see. He has One totally divine, totally righteous, totally perfect nature that now includes being a man. No. Yes. Wrong question. The question, as posed, presupposes the idea that this human nature...
  5. Clete

    Our Moral God

    I've heard this my whole life and never really understood what it meant. I'm pretty sure that I've never seen anyone establish it biblically. It seems to me that God the Son became a man and died and rose from the dead - period. He is now both God and a human. His nature changed, to be sure...
  6. Clete

    Our Moral God

    I get the humor in your comment but the meaning of "death" isn't nearly as obvious as the meaning of the word "mortal", right? "mortal" is sort of a yes or a no issue. One can either die or not. What does it mean to die, that's a completely different ball game. Maybe that's where Gary's...
  7. Clete

    Clown World

    Never advocate for the improvement of any public school. The worse they are, the more kids will be removed from their influence.
  8. Clete

    Our Moral God

    That's true but we've never had any disagreement that was based solely on the completely obvious meaning of a single word like "mortal". That's a level of stubbornness that cannot be rationally explained. As you say, why would it matter to him? He doesn't deny that Jesus died and so what...
  9. Clete

    Our Moral God

    He will not answer. No need to let the facts get in the way of a pet doctrine!
  10. Clete

    Our Moral God

    If Jesus did not die we are all still in our sins and are the most pathetic of all men. Yeah! That's "My Father loves me because I voluntarily choose to die so that I might rise from the dead." If He did not rise from THE DEAD then He cannot. That may be why we are mortal but death was not...
  11. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Told ya you wouldn't even try! I know that if you were a prophet you wouldn't be stupid. I know that prophets told kings their dreams without having been given any clue as to what the dreams was even about. You are a lunatic if you actually believe that your a prophet of God. Liar! This is...
  12. Clete

    Our Moral God

    @Gary, If you're a prophet, prove it. Tell me the name of my new grandson. There isn't anyway in a million years you could get it right by guessing. If all you do is get the first name correct, I'll be amazed! I will make a prediction! Call it a prophecy, if you like! You won't even make...
  13. Clete

    Our Moral God

    So now, the fewer people buy into your delusions the more convinced you are that your delusions are true and the people who created this website are all going to Hell if they don't take your word for it. Someone please explain to me why we're enabling this lunatic?
  14. Clete

    Our Moral God

    I took what he said to be a joke.
  15. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Imagine a prophet that can't refute a single argument presented against his doctrine! :unsure:
  16. Clete

    Our Moral God

    So, it's no wonder why no one cannot have a substantive discussion with @Gary K about rational issues where actual arguments are made and evidence is presented. He's a delusional lunatic who thinks himself to be a later day prophet who's family is harassed by demons. I'm officially done with...
  17. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Saying it doesn't make it so, Gary! Why not at least try to make the argument? What not at least put some kind of effort into establishing such a claim?
  18. Clete

    Our Moral God

    What does that have to do with what I said about the term 'satan' as used in the book of Job? The term satan, AS USED IN THE BOOK OF JOB, is not a proper name, it is a title. The Hebrew word simply means "adversary". There was no teaching or tradition in ancient times of Lucifer being called...
  19. Clete

    Our Moral God

    Glad to see that we agree on something.
  20. Clete

    Our Moral God

    FYI: The satan in Job is likely not THE Satan, (i.e. the fallen angel formerly known as Lucifer). The term "satan", as used in Job, is a title, not a proper name. It means "adversary" or "accuser". It isn't IMPOSSIBLE that it was Lucifer but there's good reason to think it wasn't, not the least...
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