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Physically, yes but not spiritually. We are not born spiritually dead. It seems to be just a way of referring to what Paul calls "the flesh". That inherited part of us that effectively guarantees that if we stick around long enough, we will choose to sin and which we remain at war with so long...

I agree.

I remember a teaching that I heard Bob Enyart talk about many years ago, a couple of decades ago, in fact, that I think I still agree with. He and Doug McBurney were talking on the radio show, if I'm remembering correctly, about some crazy woman who had murdered her children because she...

This passage says that death passed upon all men, not sin, and it says that death so passes because all have sinned (i.e. because of their own sin, not because of Adam's sin). No one is held guilty because of Adam's sin other than Adam.

Even more Calvinist doctrine with which you disagree - and rightly so! Keep it up and you'll be agreeing with me all over the place! ;) The doctrine of Original Sin is an Augustinian doctrine which both Calvinists and Catholics teach and that is flatly false to the point of being blasphemous...

There would be no use if the expectation was to defeat me. What you see or don't see is entirely irrelevant except in regard to the extent to which you are or are not a Calvinist. If you disagree that the "Election doctrines" as you call them, do not include what I have presented then you...

Quite so! I hadn't seen your post before posting what I said above! It's sort of fun when that happens! Indeed, God Himself, the Calvinists say, determined what they will or will not do. I completely love it when this happens. It shows that you instinctively think in terms of justice and know...

This is not Calvinism, Lon. Calvinists do not believe that the elect are chosen by God based on His foreknowledge. Quite the reverse. They believe God's foreknowledge is based on his predestination. “… predestination to glory is the cause of predestination to grace, rather than the converse.”...

It's almost comical to watch a Catholic attempt to use the bible to defend their doctrine. I mean, all you did was quote the very next verse after his proof-text and his whole doctrine get's poofed right out of existence as if you had used the Infinity Gauntlet! (I used Chat GPT to create the...

I am as patient as Moses with those who respond with substance. You, however, have turned yourself into a clown that wastes everyone's time with stupidity.

Do you understand the concept of making a distinction without a difference? It's the exact same person, Doug! He's got a new physical body and a new name but that doesn't make it a different person. It's the same person! That's only one of the most central doctrines of the Christian faith!

Okay, I ran out of time the other day and so have been spending the last few hours catching up and so wanted to spend some time responding to the use of John 6 as a proof text for predestination, which it definitely DOES NOT teach! So, first of all, verses 37-40 is Jesus claiming to be God...

Didn't and won't read another syllable. Every time I give you another change, this is the sort of stupidity that you waste my time with. Good bye glorydaz!

Your sentiments here is common and understandable and wrong. Not entirely though. I get the feeling that much of the disagreement here is as much semantic as it is substantive. In other words, we may well be saying close to the same thing just in different ways. Try as you might, the degree to...

You don't get it. It isn't us that believe that God predestines babies to go to Hell, it's Calvinists! It is your own doctrine that you're arguing against, not ours! Calvinism DOES NOT teach that babies are innocent! It teaches that they are all born in sin and totally depraved! Calvinism...

You can believe in the tooth fairy if that's what you want to believe. It doesn't make it true. Of course the prophets had a huge impact on what people believed but that doesn't mean that anyone was expecting a suffering Messiah. They simply were not and, even if some few may have been, the...

Define "submission" and "His will". Faith is NOT about what you do, it is about what you believe. Any other teaching amounts to law rather than grace and mixes that which was intended for Israel with that which pertains to the Body of Christ. The result is almost always one form or another of...

It isn't my demand and I didn't define justice. God Himself states explicitly that grace is offered to all and the only reason you think otherwise is because you need for some reason to insist that God is immutable and that doctrine has certain ancillary doctrines that in turn force you to...

Which is exactly the point we've all been making!

I don't think so. I think its usually beef and things like chicken soup and salads and of course, plenty of wine.