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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    At last you understand what this thread is about. I suggest you read more about the Michelson-Morley experiments, and Sagnac's experiment. You're quite mistaken about them. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The problems I have with this video is: 1. How can we see the detail on the moon if it is as far away as it is said to be. 2. That the moon rotates at an exact speed so we only see one side of it makes no sense at all. The bulge theory is an explanation not a proof. 3. That the earth's...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The problem with micro vs macro evolution is that they both are about "change over time". We both agree that the one/micro, does not prove the other/macro. But our opponents say that micro evolution becomes macro over a very long period of time. This is why I say the problem is not evolution...
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The issue is not that gravity "holds" the atmosphere, it's how does it "move" the atmosphere. And just how does gravity "move" and "hold" the atmosphere of earth as it rotates? Please explain and don't use the moving car or flying plane fallacy. Give me the scientific explanation. The "entire...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Flat Earth- Day and Night Divided, Visual Proof --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is Real Proof: Shocking Footage of Flat Earth --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The videos I have posted have already answered every question far better than I can. I would spend many needless hours trying to duplicate them. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Good response. Visualizing the curvature in relationship to the flow of rivers is an aspect that must be considered. The curvature is much greater than most people know. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Yes NASA is clearly using a fish eye lens. You can tell that as the horizon curves one way, goes straight, and then curves the other way. I'm arguing on behalf of flat earth which is not the same thing as believing in it, that is the role of the devils advocate. Just what is it about debate...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Just look at the last video I posted and see NASA test of space suit with two men in so called "vacuum chamber" without space suits. If this is not fraud and conspiracy I don''t know what is. --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    "Ridiculousness" is not an argument. --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Here is a good example of total fraud. NASA VACUUM CHAMBER There are two men in the chamber without space suits. Go to you tube site and read the commentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSHPxIem-14&spfreload=1 --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Nile River Proves Flat Earth --Dave
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    As to air planes, they ascend then "level" off at a certain altitude and remain there until it is time to descend and land. They never adjust to a curvature of the earth. The distance we can see from commercial flights would be more than enough to "see" the curvature if their was one. --Dave
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    It was their senses that told them where to throw the spear. Their sense of where the fish was, was clear to them because of their experience of what water does to what is in it. They did not need a theory of science to tell them how to fish. It's our senses that tell how to perceive things...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Does a car hit me before I can sense it? Is a car hitting me actually a past event? :rolleyes: --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My sense perception tells me nothing about the speed of either sound or light. This is another false analogy. Tests tell me the speed of sound and light, and the speed of light is theoretical and debatable. When I see a car crash right in front of me I hear the sound of it at the same time. I am...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My eyes see the present in the same way all other eyes see it. How fast we all see it, or hear it, does not make our sense perception incorrect. All "scientific data" must past through our sense perception so our sense perception must not be in doubt or else all "scientific data" is also in...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Even the basics need to be challenged. There are differences "of opinion" on what is basic in science among valid scientists. --Dave
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You are welcome to your opinion that I am not welcome to my opinion. :angrymob: --Dave :rotfl:
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