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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Distance vs curvature When looking at this picture, the road comes to an end and any vehicle disappears with it. The sides of the road narrow almost, but not quite, to a point. The landscape, from our elevated eye sight, appears to rise up and meet the sky, (horizon line) but it is not. If a...
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Not for kicks. A theology of God, which is my main personal interest, must include a cosmology. The Bible presents a cosmology. Plato and Aristotle developed a theology of God, call natural theology as opposed to revealed theology, that included a cosmology. Hinduism has a cosmology of God as...
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Cavendish experiment Accurate? How do we know? What controls did this experiment use? Who else was there to validate his, so called, results? --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Horizon line and vanishing point The horizon line is where sky meets earth but there exists another line that is the limit that we can see, which is about 3 miles that comes the vanishing point where objects disappear from or sight. The land and seascape "rise up" to our eye level but the sea...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I have been watching this evening this very professional presentation of Nikola Tesla. Electromagnetism explains much about flat earth theory but the video is not about flat earth but is a testament to Tesla's incredible life and work. Just offering this as a great historical account for those...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Are you trying to reach me? :maxi: Remember, not one single argument for either side has originated from us or any one else on this website. That's why it's not personal and why I have not made up my mind yet. The devil's advocate is not really the devil, right? :devil: I never said that my...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My next objection to this video is that on a flat earth density and buoyancy account for why some things go up and other things go down. On a globe density and buoyancy are not enough so a third force was not discovered it was imagined. Gravity is imagined as to why things don't fly off a...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You are not reading all my posts. Heliocentrism from the Phythagoreans was rejected by Plato and Aristotle, They were all philosophers. Their beliefs had much to do with their cosmology. It was a package deal. God, or no God, and cosmology go hand and hand from past to present. Hello!!! --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I too am learning far more about the cosmologies through history then I ever thought to consider before. I didn't know that Plato and Aristotle gave us geocentrism over Pythagorean heliocentrism. I always ask why they believed it, which for me is as important as the what they believed, followed...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Modern cosmological theories incorporate a philosophy. So did geocentrism and flat earth. Does heliocentrism incorporate a philosophy as well? I believe it does. --Dave
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My first reaction to the video is that water seeks it own level is affirmed and we can see across a vast distance of it, from left to right and see no curvature along the horizon. So why should any one believe that the view straight ahead of us contains a "visible curve", as ships sail away from...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The problem with this video is that it does not accurately represent the flat earth model. I had not real idea at first what the flat earth model was like but I was fair enough to look at it correctly as they presented it. It's hard to refute something you don't know any thing about. So, for...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I do not go to ebooks, ever. I put quotes and say at the end all quotes are wikipedia unless other wise stated. I go to wiki for obvious reasons. If I go to a website I put the title as a link so others can read it for themselves. That's why you see some of my quotes or titles in "blue". I...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    All the posted videos have shown that flat earthers argue that, "What the globe model does necessarily derive from is careful observation of the world around us and clear thinking about what is observed," is absolutely false. They argue that there are hundreds of visible proofs of a stationary...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    These are not entire articles, these are quotes from "different" articles in Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia, so you won't be hearing from them. If I get information from a website I take only enough and say there is more information at the site if any one is interested. This subject...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Greek Pythagorean universe of Philolaus Philolaus "Philolaus was a Greek Pythagorean and Presocratic philosopher. He argued that at the foundation of everything is the part played by the limiting and limitless, which combine together in a harmony. He is also credited with originating the theory...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I was attacking Pythagoras's cosmology. I think others will see that. There is no implication from my argument that because his cosmology is wrong that his geometry is wrong. His cosmology is wrong because it's an evolved universe not a created one. The universe is no more evolved than man is...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Daytime Lunar Eclipse Footage Debunks The Ball Earth - The Flat Earth Reality The umbra from the rising sun should cover the bottom of the moon with a shadow as it sets. But it does not. "An interesting observation to attempt would be to view the eclipsed setting Moon and the rising Sun...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I am calling into question the Pythagorean Cosmology not his geometry. The two are not the same thing. Not everything about him is false. You should no better than to use "sloppy" straw man arguments. Apeiron/Pythagorean Cosmology "The apeiron is central to the cosmological theory created by...
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    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I have grown up with the globe model, I know the arguments and so called evidence for it. The flat earth model counters it with it's evidence and arguments. Since I know both sides it is you who will not hear the other side. Both sides say they have facts on the matter, I say lets compare and...
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