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Actual location is the point and the car pic shows it's exact location. The inferior mirage does not mean the car is not where I see it. The location of the sun is not at issue with where things are on earth. Curvature is assumed not proven by refraction, circular reasoning. An argument for...

Curved earth position Flat earth response Things are where they are if they are in the light or not. Light tells us exactly where things are to say other wise is absurd. Light through the atmosphere does not make things appear to be located somewhere other than what they actually are...

What people can see and test for themselves is more important than what any one else says and is what I want to focus on right now? --Dave

If "you" don't know how to answer the question, fine. I have not seen an article that has answered my questions. The flat earth movement exists today because ordinary people with high power lenses have been seeing things that they are not supposed to be seeing. Some one put a camera on the...

Not really. --Dave

Obviously you know nothing about sailing. And you're avoiding my questions about refraction. --Dave

The article did not answer my questions. I was asking about things we see on the earth, in the distance, like skylines, boats, cars, etc. How do we know when and if a distant object on earth is a refraction or the real actual object? --Dave

How is it tested and proven?? Just saying it is is not an answer. Refractions exist as mirages and can be demonstrated from objects in and out of water at the same time. Objects down the block from me are not refractions nor two blocks from me. If it's so simple and so obvious then answer my...

Refraction Are objects we see in the distance refracted images? A refracted image is not the actual location of an object. The fish you see in the water from the surface is not where the fish actually is located. But if you are under the water with the fish there is no refraction and the fish is...

Planes go up, level off then come down. That's the only arch that they actually fly. There are pilots that say the earth is flat. Cook did not get to the ice walls. He did not sail close enough. "In 1773 James Cook and his crew crossed the Antarctic Circle for the first time but although they...

Looking for truth Let's be careful here, I'm presenting flat earth arguments in a debate. That I am spreading a lie is nearly an indictment of deliberate intent to spread falsehood. A debate that presents both sides is an intent to find the truth and that's what I am attempting. You all already...

Looking for truth Let's be careful here, I'm presenting flat earth arguments in a debate. That I am spreading a lie is nearly an indictment of deliberate intent to spread falsehood. A debate that presents both sides is an intent to find the truth and that's what I am attempting. You all already...

How Boats Vanish Over The Horizon" ON A FLAT EARTH. --Dave

How to test for flat vs globe Testing the horizon line. See my last post #1487 as a preliminary. I want to focus now on just this aspect of the debate and come to a final summary of it for both sides. The subject matter could have been divided up into many threads not just one, hindsight. A...

How to test for flat vs globe In order to test this we must first agree on the basics and how we define them. First of all we must distinguish between actual experiment and thought experiment. "Thought experiments are devices of the imagination used to investigate the nature of things. They...

Maybe the "experts" are so biased toward a globe that they are wrong. --Dave

Eric Dubay is at the head of this movement and he is a pantheist, Buddhist or Hindu. --Dave

Flat vs globe Circumference The circumferences from the top down globe and middle out flat to the equator are the same on both. The circumferences below the equator on flat earth would get longer and on the globe would become smaller again. James Clark, as previously mentioned sailed 60,000...

Flat earth is cosmetic cosmology, good one. See post #1462 and #1463, and give me your analysis. --Dave

I've always said I'm a theologian and philosopher, by the time I've covered all the bases on this subject can I call myself a scientist or cosmologist? I'd prefer scientist although it would be a stretch, but I fear cosmologist might make some think I do cosmetics. Thanks for all your...