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This picture demonstrates how a flat plain, or level/flat water, appears to rise up, even though there is no actual elevation, to meet the eye "level" of the viewer. We know the water is not elevating but only appears that way. The same effect occurs even through a telescopic lens. What ever is...

All vision, even aided by a telescopes, is subject to an ascending horizon line to the viewers height on a flat plain. This is an absolute fact. There exists a vanishing point across that entire horizon line of "limited" visual ability. The state of Kansas is a flat plain that extends for many...

I understood your point, and if the earth is a globe you are correct. But any river flowing both uphill and down hill at the same time is a self contradiction and obviously not true, which means the earth must be flat. --Dave

I was talking about elevations so when I said no up or down what I meant was there is no "uphill" and no "downhill". I'm sorry for the confusion. The following illustration will help, I hope, explain what I meant. From what ever point you are standing on a globe, every direction is downhill...

Only in your dreams? --Dave

From your picture we can see the ground, though flat, rises to your eye level just about where the yellow truck is in front of you. How far away would you say it is from you? Now see the white car just in front of the yellow truck but further away. How far away do you think it is? How far...

You certainly don't understand the flat earth model nor do you comprehend the logical implications of a globe. You cannot have a river that flows up and down at the same time in the same place, it's what we call a contradiction and that's what a globe gives you. --Dave

What do you go by on your CB? Give shout-out for me to all Flat Earthers on road. --Dave

There's no uphill or downhill in terms of distance. There is no sea "level" on a globe. All land--continents, and oceans are curved on a ball. Empirical evidence is sense perception which includes visual observation. We experience an earth that is flat and stationary with flat/straight...

The Mississippi runs one way only, from a higher to a lower elevation and down to sea level. "The Mississippi River is the second-longest river in the United States; the longest is the Missouri River, which flows into the Mississippi. Taken together, they form the largest river system in North...

If you know of any river that flows uphill give me the name of it. If you can't then I suggest you stop looking foolish by saying, "Water very simply does not always flow downhill" as if that counters my argument. But, just as oceans are curved and not level, there is no up or down on a globed...

Remember we are talking about what keeps oceans from being "level" not what keeps boats from sinking. Water seeks it's own level and never runs uphill, in any and every testable visual way. Tidal waves, toilets, siphons, and capillaries are not oceans or rivers, etc. they do not negate the law...

And we can say that, with the aid of light, we can see what things are out there and where everything is as the rule. --Dave

I talk about oceans and rivers and you all answer with capillaries, siphons, and toilets as if that disproves that oceans are flat and level and water does not travel uphill. And you think that flat earth people are crazy. --Dave

There is so much contradiction from NASA about stars, can we see them from space or not. If you see a beam of light, and just how come it's a beam anyway, then you cannot directly see a star that's light years away. I've posted videos on this a couple of times already. All the theories from...

The word planet is not a Biblical one. It's Babylonian and Greek from Pythagoras. Having not even been to the moon I doubt everything from NASA. What are stars? Do we actually see them or just the light that comes from them being so far away and all. --Dave

I can suck gas up and out of a gas tank, but when I stop sucking guess what happens. Your example, well, sucks. :rotfl: --Dave

Yahoo Answers "The story I heard is that he was sitting under an apple tree and a small gust of wind caused an apple to fall to the ground. He looked up in the sky and saw the Moon (in the daytime) and it came to him that the force that kept the Moon in orbit was the same force that caused the...

I understand your problem with my "connections" and I agree that you are right that A does not prove B. But all cosmologies have a philosophic or theological connection that is part of them. We have in theology the "cosmological arguments for the existence of God". Pythagoras had his impersonal...

What ever keeps us on the ground on a flat stationary earth is not the same thing that would be required to keep us from flying of a spinning globe. Density and buoyancy and electromagnetism--Tesla, meets all the requirements needed to explain why everything is not floating in space on a flat...