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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Good point, I stand corrected. Although, there are astronomers who are also into astrology. But now you have evidence that "astronomy" is not my strong point. --Dave
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The distance and the time it took was the point of that and not the exact size and exact location of the continents. --Dave P.S. And I would not rest my case on this either or any other single argument.
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I was studying the new trends in cosmology at a site called Closer to Truth, which is also a TV series. I highly recommend it. https://www.closertotruth.com/ And in my study of Einstein's space time and the multi universe theory, I came across the flat earth model as well, which of course is...
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Thanks, But let's keep to the subject here. --Dave
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I'm looking at this from both sides. You'll have to be patient until I make my conclusions, which I'm already preparing. Again, astrology is not my thing, so I have to put work into this. --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I don't think I need your help on how to do my evangelism. I'm very good at what I do. http://www.dynamicfreetheism.com/Evangelism.html --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    A good flat earth map does not exist and I would not take a side for either flat or globe earth based on a map. --Dave
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I have not accepted or rejected any thing yet. You have a reading comprehension problem. I have said repeatedly what I am trying to accomplish here. There are good arguments and bad ones from both sides. What I believe now and in the end is not important, what's important is that there is...
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The Flat earth model and the globe model have the same calendar and the same movement of the sun, moon, and stars. They simply have the sun, moon, and stars at different sizes and different distances from the earth. The heliocentric and geocentric models also share the same calendar, etc. We...
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    But it's just not the oblate one that Neil Degrasse Tyson says exists. --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You have that technically backwards. The people who say the Towers was an inside job are not the ones who destroyed the towers, either the hijackers conspired to take down the towers or Bush and friends in government conspired to take them down. Love you enemies! --Dave
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This subject cannot be decided by one point there are too many aspects to it. I will address all of them when I conclude. --Dave
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Good point you may be correct, or not. But it needs to be considered. Thanks. --Dave Sent from my iPhone using TOL
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    A proof for the existence of God Point: The very possibility of God means he exists. Counter point: I can imagine all kinds of Gods who's existence is only in my head. Point: Only one kind of God can create an intelligently designed universe. Counter point: This is only one of a gazillion...
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    In the end, the arguments are all that matter, not who (or how many) make it, or why they are doing it. If this were not so, at least in my mind, and it's the other way around, then I'm not going to the park, or go on line, because "who am I", "why am I here?" I become just a nobody with just an...
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I've be asked if I think the earth is flat before, so I'm sure it will happen again. And when I have said no they say well the Bible says it is. I have always used the usual arguments that we all know, but!!! I strongly believe in having integrity, if you try to con them in the park they see...
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    As I said, if I concede any one point at this time this debate is over. I am examining all the good stuff you post, but I will render my conclusions when I think I have understood this well enough. Thanks for the graph, very helpful. --Dave
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The video shows that there is no perfect map for flat or globe earth. That's the only point. --Dave
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Once I concede any one point this debate is over. Did that cross your mind? And because the astronomy aspect of this topic is what I least understand about it I still want to continue to examine the evidence and arguments you all are providing. I have great respect for all of you. I want to make...
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The point is the videos show stares to be very different than what NASA is showing us. --Dave
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