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  1. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Horizontal stabilizers and elevators keep a plane flying straight/level. Jets flying level/straight would be a fair test for a curved earth. Elevators would have to be adjusted to follow the curve and not adjusting them would keep the plane flying straight. The difference between a plane...
  2. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    These photos/videos were as blurred, if not more, than the one's I posted. That's all I'm saying. --Dave
  3. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If a plane can...then the earth is not a globe. --Dave
  4. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    You can have this view but it violates the rule of logic in two ways. The law of identity or definition, level is not level on a curved earth. The law of non contradiction, A plane cannot both be going straight and ascending at the same time. The rules of rational thought have been abandoned...
  5. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Sorry, this does not help. --Dave
  6. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Their are millions of people who believe in Allah. Their are millions of atheists. Etc., they are not knowingly in on the hoax. The deceivers have fooled the deceived and the money they spend is not even close to the money they make. --Dave
  7. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I am questioning the power of gravity to keep a plane from flying straight without having to follow the curvature of the earth and you all respond with I don't understand physics. Level means not curved. In 10 miles the earth drops 66 feet. In 20 miles the earth drops 266 feet. In 30 miles...
  8. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    I made my point and it's absolute. Planes can fly straight and do not have to follow the curvature of the earth. That would prove beyond doubt that the earth is a globe. And why anyone would say a plane can't fly straight makes me question their sanity. --Dave
  9. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Maybe basic physics about gravity, is wrong. --Dave
  10. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    This is pointless and does not address my argument. --Dave
  11. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    My part here is to present and defend flat earth, if no one did there would be no debate. You have chosen to present and defend globe earth from the flat stationary earth claims that there is no curvature or movement etc. What's clear to me is flat earth has a reasonable claim and valid...
  12. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Chair, watch some good flat earth videos that I have recommended. If you don't then you're ignoring what you should be refuting, if you can. The earth is not flat, and here's the evidence, is not a good argument for why people are believing it is because they have evidence that contradicts...
  13. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    A fighter jet can easily travel 1 mile in 10 seconds. In 100 seconds, 10 miles, a jet would be 66 feet above the curvature of earth if flying straight. In another 100 seconds, 20 miles, the drop would be 266 feet. We don't have to leave earths atmosphere in order to clearly see the curvature of...
  14. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Planes fall and crash on flat earth as well. That planes can fly with out instruments or computer controls is my point. Which means they can fly straight and do not have to follow the curved earth. --Dave
  15. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    And that planes can crash proves my point. --Dave
  16. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    And what would that be? --Dave
  17. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Theories like this cut both ways. These gentile men could well be under the influence of their own theory. Also, I'm sure that the Church leaders of the geocentric time would have had this same opinion of those who were advocating a heliocentric universe. Arguments in themselves are not...
  18. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    If you fail to understand my concerns than it's obvious that you are the one who fears that your view is being shattered. I have have no bias or worry over what cosmology is true. All of us every day experience a flat stationary world around us. That we are lead to believe that the earth, in...
  19. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    The three historic cosmologies accurately account for the same calendar, the same location in the sky of sun, moon, and stars/planets from earth. The difference is what is, or is not, moving and how far away everything is from each other. The three cosmological views arrange the parts...
  20. DFT_Dave

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon

    Planes can fly with out computer control, you did know that right? There is instrument flying and visual flying. Pilots control airplanes and they determine adjustments. Auto pilot can be turned on and off. This is not debatable. --Dave
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