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  1. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    "Judaism" Jews were the seat of God's interaction with man in Jewish conversion (gentiles didn't seek them out, no Apostle purposefully went after gentiles but Philip, until the Apostle Paul. Also realize Jews were dispersed 0.o
  2. Lon

    Do some of the Scriptural Truths offend you?

    Nope. I can understand English. You cannot. Fact. I taught kids like you. You frankly, don't know English. You are all black by yourself. LOL, there you go, proving my point. You don't even know how much college or seminary costs. Correctly assessing your earned grades is NOT ad...
  3. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    This isn't in agreement among Mid Acts. In among there is a book 'to' Hebrews and others among it. James clearly said "to the twelve tribes." Etc. *This question, btw, makes me 'well within' Mid Acts theology, meaning I'm accepting of the MAD moniker: *How many apostles do you have...
  4. Lon

    Do some of the Scriptural Truths offend you?

    You read the Bible out of context. You didn't do well in English class. Nobody who about flunked English should be positing. "Let me guess" can be wrong, but no, you have earmarks that place you within 'handles.' Well within. You don't have to care so much except as the shoe fits...
  5. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    That is the way I'd heard it too.
  6. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    Yes, exactly: At least we see apparent contradictions. My question was to rather give example and then ask: "What do you mean by no contradiction?" I think rather, we mean "The Bible is consistently true, even if it records something like a lie" rather than that it doesn't contain...
  7. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    I believe it all boils down to 'how we perceive love' (see my conversation with Derf above). Does God have to 'perform' to be loved? Derf says 'yes.' I say "NO!" (emphatically). Love is the impetus behind the action: "God is love." He doesn't have to 'do' anything to be loved, He...
  8. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    An inconsistency? There are none? Did Judas hang himself or spill his guts? The two 'seem' contradictory, but are they? The Bible also records others as 'lying' (a contradiction against what is true), like Rahab who lied and said the spies were not with her. How do you see these...
  9. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    First Psalms, yes God loves all His creation. Didn't do biology? Two points: 1) There was a tree, necessary for God to be in the Garden. 2) There was a prohibition to eat of it. Yeah. It. Is. Haven't studied it enough? Most of Open Theism comes from the O.T. The New Testament has Jesus...
  10. Lon

    Do some of the Scriptural Truths offend you?

    :doh: Let me guess, Pentecostal Charismatic as well? You don't know what 2 Peter 1:19 means! Read it again 16-21 Of course. A 'person' is a 'being.' It is an existence word. How well did you do in English class? I do. You obviously don't, making up abundantly for your lack? Learn...
  11. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    So if I become Open Theist, I win the doubling-down award? Look: Flames are flames. You were asking something about God being among flames. "Oh, Nick! I seem to remember a previous scenario like you are asking...." If Open Theism is only as good as the latest greatest 'gotcha...
  12. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    It is rather that we don't know. You are both guessing. I don't know. It doesn't seem He'd be there, but I'm not ready to make my own theology off of 'seems.' I'd rather, frankly, just say "my theology says I don't know." It'd be presumptuous to try and speak for God where angels...
  13. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Ouch! You aren't reading well, Nick. I said God was with Shadrach Meshack and Abednego, meaning flames aren't an issue for God. Try to keep up.
  14. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    I 'know' what it is from scripture! LOL. Is it an immolation or forever and ever? Right, is it an immolation or ongoing like a forge or foundry? LOL, we weren't speaking to one another. I didn't mean I literally didn't know what the Lake of Fire was. LOL. I tried to clarify with...
  15. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Or at least what one thinks scripture says. On point, the huge difference is between what we alternatively see as anthropomorphized language from God. I don't know and I'd intimate neither do you. Everything, everything, everything comes 'from' God. Without Him is nothing made that is...
  16. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Because it was all preplanned and controlled. "Happy Birthday!" It didn't matter that it was all organized. For us, the same. We are here 'to learn.' Free will theists miss that point and imperialize something else and miss the forest for the trees.
  17. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Immutability doesn't mean a rock. It means rather that all there is, is from God Who has always existed and the only Constant in existence. God is infinite, the 'Rock' is without limitation. Immutable is understood in the sense that He cannot become what He is not. My point: why would...
  18. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    They do, but I don't see it. If I were hypothetically get an Almanac from the future that said you'd win something, or such. I'd know infallibly what you'd do but have no connection with you at all. "Knowing" doesn't do anything to your free will as far as analogy goes. You will do...
  19. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Exactly, you picked up on it fine. "His will." Importance for me? Before the Fall, yes. Now? How can my will, at struggle with sin and following God, be of import? He loves us, as individuals, but we are talking about 'will' here. Prior the Fall, yes. He loved us, so important to...
  20. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Prognosis 🤔 I'm not a Christopher Fisher fan, too indoctrinated to even consider the debate points, he isn't doing talking points, but rather doing 'smiling' commentary. He isn't even listening, just immediately going to a standard rhetoric. Two ships passing, never engaging (Bob listens...
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