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  1. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    Are we comparing fruit? Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Long-suffering, and Self-control? Are they not all of the same 'tree?'
  2. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Rather, it was the breaking. They weren't 'free' to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The act and eating of the fruit of the tree were one and the same: knowledge and 'freedom' of good and evil. It was always a trading of masters. We were always owned. "Free" is a...
  3. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Of course, wherefore would the Serpent have lied? It isn't a bad suggestion. We either see the serpent as Satan, possessed, or a wicked animal? Creation can be good. The book of Job tells us Satan had access and conversation with God. If the serpent were kept in a cage, it'd have saved...
  4. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    I cannot say, such is a matter between Savior and soul. I'd reckon that one is in grave territory. In a sense, we could bring up Papal abuses: Were those priests God's? I don't know. If fruit was enough, we'd reckon not. Else we would all be lost. As such, I reckon we deal with...
  5. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    More than, created in His image to do so. However, sin broke that: "Not that we loved God, but that He loved us..." It is why I believe we are born in sin. The passage says we didn't/couldn't love God until He saved us. Perhaps you had a 'choice' at one time in your life to 'not love'...
  6. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    The thrust of the verse isn't about 'cut down' but rather about God's desire, patience, and long suffering without seeing fruit. I'd reckon crab apples the next season would be at least something.
  7. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    A game is completely known by a game programmer. There is absolutely nothing you can do in it that wouldn't be already known. There is absolutely nothing (nothing) that you have seen or done that isn't done in His creation. He is the programmer by analogy of all we experience. Then, by...
  8. Lon

    Wokey McWokeface

    In short: Only Indians are allowed to draw Indians, only blacks are allowed to draw and use blacks. Only whites are allowed to draw whites? "No, that is okay, we aren't 'thin skinned.' 🤔 The problem with 'bleeding hearts' is no critical thinking skills or ability to follow ideas to...
  9. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Selective reading on point. It starts with Jesus, 'Was He God?" "Did He exist." Agnostics and critics miss "critical steps" in analysis, purposeful obtusion for secular obvious reasons. Your universalism is showing. Ideology is mutually exclusive. Attempts to blend are simply pick and...
  10. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    Well, let's put it this way: If you are indwelled by God and not doing things God prompts you to do...but does it mean you aren't saved? No by necessity, remember Jesus' analogy of the unfruitful tree? Luke 16:6-9
  11. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    A bit from the link I gave above in case you didn't have time: The difference then isn't a contradiction, but a difference in what 'faith' meant between his particular audience and Paul's: Romans 3:27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works...
  12. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Who cares about "Derf's" Choice when you are stacked up against "God's" choice? Is that supposed to be preferable? Let's visit it with me: Who cares about "Lon's" choice stacked up against God's choice or will? Anybody? Anybody at all? Even in my case, not even me. His will is way...
  13. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    And you can check out of this life as well, most do not. If you do, your choice: stop playing, as the analogy is appropriate and goes.
  14. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    I know that is what Open Theists believe that, and I know the reasons they make that assertion, but one does not at all lead to the other. Example: I play a video game that is huge. There is nothing I can do in that game that developers didn't place there. It never means loss of my...
  15. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    --I believe JR did a good job with this already, and I had intended to write something along the same line but shorter when I came across this link. It does a nice a job.
  16. Lon

    Is Faith Without Works Dead?

    Edited here for emphasis. This is so important! For me: It isn't perfectly possible until we are saved: New natured persons do new natured works that we want to do in following our Savior. Amen! My bolded emphasis If you all would allow, a small augmentation: "Salvation" is not...
  17. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Woot! Of course I'm happy you say that for obvious reasons :) Also happy news. True enough. I have no problem with you questioning such, just ask that you consider, planting a seed as it were... I think you 'can' but thank you for considering. You don't have to become Mid Acts. I'm...
  18. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Read Acts 15? Was there a difference? What was it? Why was it different? You don't have to be, just entertain the difference to understand why Mid Acts sees this as important.
  19. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    Nick is answering similarly... "...First to the Jew..." Romans 1:16 Realize this is more of a Mid Acts vs than an Open disagreement on point. You'd not be Mid Acts on point.
  20. Lon

    If I were to become Open Theist...

    No. Not where Open Theism is concerned. It is about a "God Who Risks" for man. My question is about the draw. "What is the point of Open Theism?" Literally 'me and my freewill' and especially my freewill volition which is apparently (I wholly disagree) is the definition of love (it...
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