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Well indeed. It does help to know which Greek philosophers you are talking about. You are talking about the Greek theologians, as it turns out! Biblical theism and the paradoxes are all nonsense, which is what unites them. But you haven't challenged helocentrism. Where did you do that? Stuart

No, I don't mean that. Stuart

You said there was a god called the 'Unmoved Mover'. Since these are the gods the ancient Greeks believed in, I was hoping you might identify which it was. Which is it? Stuart

Kepler had that one solved for you by 1619. Stuart

Could you please select that one from this list: Achelois - One of the moon goddesses. Achelous - The patron god of the Achelous river. Aeolus - (a.k.a. Aeolos, Aiolos, Aiolus, Eolus) God of air and the winds. Aether - (a.k.a. Aither, Akmon, Ether) God of light and the atmosphere. Alastor -...

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Dodge. In the flat earth fantasy constellations should appear to distort as they travel the 'heavens'. They don't. Flat earth disproved. Again. Stuart

Which Greek god do you mean? Stuart

Why don't you explain it to us yourself? That would be much more convincing. Stuart

Oh dear. Your model 'Sun, moon, and stars are close and small and not far away' must have the constellations changing their apparent proportions if we are a disc whizzing around under a flat disc (or 'dome') of stars. Flat earth disproved again. Stuart

Here's a series of nice pictures: Isn't it interesting that no matter where the constellation Crux, the Southern Cross, appears relative to the horizon, the aspect ratio (the proportion of its length to its width) never changes. Stuart

The thread is a joke, designed to suck people in. I wouldn't take it personally! Stuart

Well, that certainly helps me to deal with your speculation about it being four dozen or three dozen: I'd say neither, it's about a handful. Well, you're asking for trouble straight away there, aren't you. Anyway, mass bends space-time. Theory 1. I think you should start a new thread: The...

Well, ok then. You tell me what I believe, then I'll know. Stuart

You don't know what you mean, so how can I possibly know? Stuart

Did you mean theories as in scientific theories, the proper explanations that really are explanations, that only survive if they explain all the evidence and are contradicted by none; or did you mean conspiracy theories, where one phenomenon is explained badly and all other evidence is ignored...

I am one of those who have demonstrated that flat earthing and creationism are scams, but you haven't demonstrated that evolution or the Big Bang are scams. Stuart

I know. Many times over. But I have to modify what I said about it not being a very interesting conspiracy. In itself it's not a very interesting conspiracy, because it is so obviously nonsense that people could possibly conspire on that scale over that period of time, otherwise capitalism is a...

Of course the pair of them know that. The thread is a joke, designed to be played on the righteous indigniants. ...which category I guess has to include me, since I played too. Although as DFT pointed out earlier, there is some interest value in how you would actually show the earth is a globe...

Yes, that did seem to be what they were saying. Stuart