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:up: Some arguments are just so transparently false and fraudulent that they really are a waste of time and even insulting. I'm over it. Why presuppose that it's about anything other than that some people see conspiracies behind every broken toaster and have no ability to think past their own...

Whether his own or the man's with whom he is speaking.

The problem with this idea is that the Sun supposedly goes in this circle every single day, right? Or are they (you) suggesting that there is another circle, an annual circle, superimposed upon the daily circle that the Sun travels above the flat Earth? Also, this idea suggests, if I...

I foolishly changed my mind and decided to watch that STUPID video! I shouldn't have done it because it just makes me angry for people to insult my intelligence with ignorant foolishness like what is presented in the moronic video! Listen. If you (anyone - not just Dave) do not have the mental...

I'm as patient as the day is long so long as you don't avoid the arguments and pretend like they don't exist or that they are assuming something that they do not assume and which has been repeatedly pointed out to you that they do not assume. When you respond to an argument that has to do with...

The calculations made in the video I posted did not make any assumptions about a flat or round Earth. Please respond to the following singular point, a point that everyone on this thread (seemingly) has made and which you have skillfully avoided responding to. Choosing instead to call into...

I'm still choosing to believe that he's playing the part of a #3 but is actually a #2. I just simply cannot believe anyone with a clear mind could be a #1

I'm going to choose to say option 2 just because I still cannot make myself believe that the guy who was capable of creating THIS could have a mind capable of anything else.

So Dave, I see that you're wanting to land the plane here but I've spent way too much time here to let it end without getting some sort of verdict. If you were sitting in a jury box and you had to decide whether the powers the be were guilty or innocent of sticking the pupoluation into beling...

I wonder how many of these will end up being actually facts? This is stated rather losely but granting the point, it is only evidence that we and the planet are moving together. If the planet was motionless or moving at a million miles per hour, it would feel the same to us. Therefore, this is...

Thank you for posting an actual counter argument! You argument here fails because no such assumptions have to be made. It doesn't matter at all if the Moon or Earth are orbiting the Sun when one triangulates their relative distances from the Earth. There is one single assumption, that the Moon...

I haven't dismissed anything with providing an argument that supports that dismissal. Additionally, there is no rational questioning of how trigonometry works in regards to finding the relative lengths of two sides of a right triangle. There is no way around the fact, the observable, provable...

Okay. :up: This is called an unsubstantiated claim. A.K.A. Crazy talk!

This might be the most intellectually dishonest post you've made on this whole thread. First of all the geometry of sun rays argument has already been debunked and quite completely so. Secondly, as dewscribed in my counter argument, what you are seeing is not "rays" from the sun, you are seeing...

Fuel. If you're flying around in circles, you're using fuel and a lot of it. Where do these little machines store all this fuel? The only fuel on satellites is the tiny amounts they use for maneuvering thrusters that maintain the satellite's orientation. Also, why are geostationary...

Cool video and cool experiment! But... The problem with GoPro cameras is the sort of wide-angle lens that they use. If you watch the video carefully, you'll see the bend in the horizon change with the angle of the camera. It'll be bent downward then flat then bent upward and then flat again...

All four of the videos in that series prove the flat earth model to be impossible. Anyone who watches even one of them and does not reject the flat-earth model is not looking at the issue scientifically.

I've seen videos (it may well have been one that Dave posted) that stated that it works off of cell phone towers and other ground-based forms of communication. It's not a sufficient explanation but the flat-earthers do have an answer for seemingly every conceivable objection.

To be fair, most of the question were address in one way or another via the videos he posted. Certainly not all of them and not as directly as I would have liked but it wouldn't be fair to say that they weren't addressed at all.

That is an excellent question. If what we've presented isn't sufficient then what would be? I am still holding out hope that what we've presented has been sufficient and that the verdict of Dave's mind will be in favor of the round earth, by the way.