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So, if I'm following this correctly, Patrick, Mr. Conspiracy Theory himself, is objecting to your making vague and unsubstantial connections between things that would, in the mind of a rational person, be disparate and unrelated. Have I got that right?

How we know the distance between the Earth and the Sun (and by extention, the size of Earth's orbit and it's average orbital speed)... http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/41-our-solar-system/the-earth/orbit/87-how-do-you-measure-the-distance-between-earth-and-the-sun-intermediate

So, is the contention then that the conspiracy can only be as old as Empirical measurements (e.g. inches, feet, miles, etc.) have been in common use? I don't remember Eratosthenes being English? :confused: Oh and, by the way, the Earth doesn't tilt at anything close to 66.6° and never has...

Here is the math for the curvature of the Earth with far more precise (i.e. less rounded) numbers. The Earth's equatorial radius (r) is 3963.2 miles, based on numbers from Wikipedia. This gives a circumference (c) of c = 2 * π (3.14159265359) * r (3963.2) = 24901.520009415776 mi We wish to...

Okay. I am sorry that I "flamed out" as you put it. I wish I had deleted that post before Patrick had a chance to quote it. I'll do the experiment eventually. When I do, I'll post the results here but I'm not reading another syllable of Patrick's posts. They're far worse than anything Dave...

I'm done with this! I've asked a few people to help me with that experiment and if they agree (which I doubt) then I'll go ahead and do it but I now no longer care anything about it. You all can waste you time discussing this all you like but I've read the last syllable of this insanity that I...

Here's an updated Google Earth screen shot with the new calibration shot locations...

I just now realized that I can't trust the level of the sidewalks on my calibration shots. I'll have to move Calibration 1 and Calibration 2 onto the surface of the water rather than taking them from the nice firm sidewalks like I was originally thinking. That'll make the calibration more...

They have. It's not super common but it's done from time to time by high school science classes. They aren't attempting to prove the Earth isn't flat, they're trying to measure the circumference of the Earth but the procedure is exactly that same. I submit that you know of no such thing. You've...

Patrick, Seriously, would my measuring anything significantly departed from a zero drop in the surface of a continuous body of water over a distance of 1.3 miles be sufficient to prove to you that the Earth is not flat? I explained the math involved in post #1294, in case you missed it. Clete

Nice link! I understand why the thought experiment was done on the equinox but the experiment will work on any day. If a person wants to prove to themselves that the Earth was not flat, all he would have to do is put a stick in the ground (it would need to be a flat and level piece of ground...

Me too! I am have a very difficult time finding anyone willing to help me do it. You can't believe (or maybe you can) the goofy looks and laughter I get in response to even bring it up, never mind asking people to help me make the measurement. Even my own kids make fun of me and tell me that you...

You're a fool.

Because they aren't about the environment, they're about politics. It is about power - pure and simple. It is about telling you how to live your life and what you can and cannot do with your private property. The end result of what environmentalists want is jack-booted authoritarianism, whether...

In fact, you are - the crazy one. I cannot believe - I mean I literally cannot believe you wrote that post. Now math doesn't work and the mathematical equations that tell you how circles work somehow also works on a flat surfaces!? Do you know what a tangent is, Patrick? (Serious question...

Patrick, If I measured the curvature of the Earth myself, with my own equipment, and the measurement came within a reasonable margin of error of that which would be expected if the Earth is a sphere 24,901 miles in circumstance, would that convince you that the Earth is not flat?

What a brilliant article! Thank you for posting it.

"Fabricated image." - Making me part of the conspiracy. That would be hysterical.

:up: Test run.... http://ge.tt/9FhV9ap2 Incidentally, I'd still love to know just what flat-earthers think that's a picture of!

That's what I did in that last post only with OneDrive.