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  1. Clete

    All Things come with Christ !

    How could he answer it? It is, for them, just one more word, one more concept, that has no meaning when applied to God.
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Bob was simply the greatest bible teacher of our generation.
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Saying it doesn't make it so. You established no such thing. Not even close. You're the only person I've ever heard of who even believes such a thing. No, not in the church - lower case 'c'. I do not worship the church nor am I identified by it. No, there is no Jew or Gentile in regards to...
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    So all of that was almost entirely unresponsive to the point. It seems you look for opportunity to focus on semantics and run off onto rabbit trails so as to avoid the issue at hand. The point is, that the New Covenant has nothing to do with you or any other believer today. It cannot even be...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Brilliant brilliant post, JR! Do you suppose that the concept of God PLEADING through us just flew right over b57's head or do you think he got the point and simply ignored it? I mean you even put it in bold AND underlined it, not to mention how you highlighted the word "WORLD" and yet, he just...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    In this post, b57 demonstrates his proclivity toward lying. He hasn't done this in some time and so I had hoped he had repented of such practices but he's fallen off the wagon with this post when he suggests that the only logical alternative to Limited Atonement is Universalism. He knew that...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Translation: "Ignore everything the bible says about who God is, what sort of person He is and anything else that might pertain to the topic at hand a look only at the single verse that I wish to use as a proof text for one of my pet doctrines that cannot be established in any other way."...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Proof texting is fun! The same sort of techniques are used by every "Christian" cult leader known to history. I remember back in the 90s, there was a TV show put on by a lunatic murderer who called himself "Yahweh Ben Yahweh". The entire show was one example after another of exactly the sort...
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    Are you Going to Heaven?

    You don't have to believe in what I'm talking about to believe that David Koresh was a "sinning Messiah" either. So what? I do not believe you. You didn't read it and don't care to read it. If you want people to simply say "yes" or "no" or some other single syllable response to the things you...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Only if you read your doctrine into the text. Sort of the opposite of enlightening since you have to already have that in your head to get it out of the text.
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    Did God put Israel's covenant on hold?

    Short answer to a complex question is.... The new covenant is (was) with believing Israel and is described in detail in Hebrews (which was written to.......wait for it........the Hebrews!). We are not partakers of that covenant because we are not Jews. There aren't any Jews any longer, at...
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    Eternal suffering is not Literal

    You did a terrific job on this but I wanted to expand on the above quoted passage. Notice the last sentence (verses 13-14).... Ephesians 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy...
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    Are you Going to Heaven?

    Translation: "I'm too lazy to read even far enough to realized that every major point made was established with scripture and I sure as Hell can't be bothered to spend so much time away from my video games to actually respond with any substance anyway so don't bother writing anything in...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    "Truth" with a capital 'T' as though your doctrine is God Himself. Are you capable of NOT blaspheming? Not everything you said in your post was false. Much of it is normal, biblical Christian doctrine but it was obvious enough that what you were getting at was the doctrine of limited atonement...
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    All Things come with Christ !

    Note that none of the above establishes the Calvinist doctrine of Limited Atonement. Notice how b57 simply presumes the truth of his doctrine and reads it into the texts he cites and then states the doctrine as fact and pretends that this is sufficient in spite of the biblical texts that...
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    Are you Going to Heaven?

    You aren't entirely wrong but are making a dispensational error in that you are ignoring the different dispensations. As for the current Dispensation of Grace and the Body of Christ.... 2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from...
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    Will CNN be sold to FOX News?

    There is no profit in listening to a known fool. There is no tactical advantage to giving ear to lies. The mere fact that you can tolerate listening to more than 15 seconds of CNN is evidence of a flaw in your character. The fact that you hold Fox News on equal footing with CNN is proof of it...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    As JR said, that is indeed the entire point. Calvinist contradict their own doctrine practically with every breath they take. How many thousands of times a day does a person make a choice? How many times an hour does a person exercise his will?
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    Will CNN be sold to FOX News?

    You find profit in getting a view that is openly, demonstrably and intentionally false? Why? Do you read both the bible and Koran? Do you listen to both the Baptist preacher and the Mormon? Do you give equal time to both employers and thieves? Do you hold the thinker and the fool on equal...
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