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Another loaded question. Define faith. Prediction: B57 will not offer a definition of faith. If he responds at all he'll accuse me of some form of dishonesty (i.e. avoiding the question or whatever) but he will not offer a definition of faith. Faith, the noun, is not listed as one of the...

Brilliant point, Marke! “We cannot assign any reason for his bestowing mercy on his people, but just as it so pleases him, neither can we have any reason for his reprobating others but his will.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 22, Paragraph 11)

It should be noted that the bible does indeed talk about various things being predestined. They aren't predestined in the same sense that Calvinists use the term. They've twisted that, just like they've twisted every other concept that pertains in anyway to doctrine and theology. The things...

Hury! Post something! Anything at all so that Clete's post isn't the last word on the thread for even one minute longer than it has to be! The more meaningless nonsense we post, the further his rational thoughts are buried into the thread so that maybe people won't see it!

Saying it doesn't make it so. I demonstrated clearly how this is false. It's the bible you have a problem with which is why you can't deal with it honestly. You're forced to pry individual phrases and sentences from its context and use them a pretexts to prop up a theology that, at this point...

I answered it in the only way it can be answered. If you'd actually read what I wrote and humble yourself just enough to actually look up what I told you to look up, you MIGHT be able to discern what it is I'm trying to tell you. Of the two of us, it is YOU who do not answer direct questions...

Already directly refuted. The fact that he simply repeats himself here as though nothing has been said in response is him telling an intentional lie. This sort of thing doesn't happen, at least not on a regular basis, with people who aren't selling a pack of lies. Ignoring contrary evidence is...

Boy oh boy what a gem of stupidity that post is! Do you understand what "begging the question" means? You need to look it up because you do it constantly without even realizing you're doing it. You've never been taught how to think in a manner that is consistent with either your previous...

You know what is most remarkable about this post? The fact that you had to post it at all! There are millions and millions of Calvinists all over the world all of whom call themselves Christians and say they love God and study the bible and go to church and do all the things that anyone might...

In exactly the way in which the passage itself says. All you have to do is read it and take it to mean what the normal meanings of the words would imply. That, unfortunately for you, means that it won't work for you. Your mind is broken. You've been brain-washed to the point that you can no...

Well, the wheels on the bus go round and round! Here again we have b57 ripping a single sentence completely out of its context and applying it in a manner that has nothing AT ALL to do with what was being talked about in the actual text of scripture from which it was ripped. Let's read it...

Not in the way you mean it, no! There isn't hardly two syllables of the English language that pertains to any Christian doctrine that you Calvinists haven't redefined so as to force it to fit into your asinine doctrine. Every word you speak is loaded with meanings that are not appearant to the...

Saying it doesn't make it so and focusing on one part of a sentence in order to use it as a pretext for your doctrine is the very definition of taking something out of context. That method of "bible study" is how cults get made and sustained. Thank you for conceding the debate.

All one has to do to understand the lie b57 is selling here is to read more than one half of one sentence of the bible at a time... Acts 18:24 Now a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man and mighty in the Scriptures, came to Ephesus. 25 This man had been instructed in...

Let's talk a bit more about Romans 12! The first verse of Romans 12 is one of my favorites. If any of you have read my essay entitled, "Our Moral God", you'll remember that I focused a lot of attention on the Greek word "Logos" and how it does not mean "word", it means "reason". I wish that I...

Except it doesn't say that! Take the Romans 12 verse, for example. It has nothing to do with what b57 is talking about here..... Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your...

Why oh why doesn't b57 tell you the rest of the story? Those that Calvin's god doesn't "cause to repent" go on doing what Calvin's god predestined they would do anyway. Then, when they die, they are sent to eternal punishment for doing the very things that they did not choose to do but which...

No "Divine Promise" (why would those words need to be capitalized???) was ever sure in the idiotic sense that Calvinists want to pretend except to those who love God and respond to Him in faith. No, not even the nation of Israel was guaranteed anything. In Exodus 32 God is set to destroy Israel...

Outrageous stupidity from every angle. It's an argument that doesn't follow even from its own premises and it is based on false premises to begin with!

Truth is not contradictory and your doctrine is so contradictory it's laughable. Therefore, your doctrine is not the truth. Therefore, by your own testimony, you are not saved!