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Good bye to you. I came to this thread for discussion, not your mocking.

All you gotta do is show me where scripture presents the earths as a spinning globe propelling through space.

I'm claiming that cities are the same distance apart and do not move about making them farther apart in one model while not the other because you are basing your distance on a map that is a hypothesis. I've seen several different models used as a hypothesis. The plane is not sitting on the...

Me too. You too. How can they not be valid? They are taking pictures at high altitudes and no curvature shows. On the ground they are using a high zoom camera and can see things that should be hid if there is a curvature. You used a map that was a hypothesis. Cities remain the same distance...

Cities don't move closer or further apart, they stay where they are. Someone may have hypothesized that is a "true" map. Why would you think everyone that believes the earth may be flat HAS to use that map? Why? If the earth was spinning below him, wouldn't Dallas move out of his sight?

Just showing what scripture says. Does scripture say the sun goes below the horizon? Just pointing it out. They do verify what scripture says about the earth. Their experiments show no curvature. No doubt.

Because cities don't move closer or further apart, and thus the distance would be the same no matter which model is used. If a plane flew up over Dallas and only flew in a small circle for 48 hours, would Dallas always be in view?

It indicates that it is because no man was there in the beginning. That hasn't changed. There is still no man that was there in the beginning (Jesus excepted). That an object can rise and fall above the earth does not prove a globe earth. I don't why you think the sun cannot rise or fall about a...

Apparently. Because I was told in school for years and years that it was "science". Thanks. The same could be said for "evidence" of a globe earth. It could be that someday it will be shown that their way of calculating "evidence" was not so correct after all. I'm not distracting from it. Just...

Then their calculations were worthless. I would think scripture is real knowledge. But a lot of scientist don't seem to want to accept it and even oppose it. So which scientists are real scientists? So you think that was just concerning the one man, Job, and some other man could? The context...

So who is it that has the authority to define what the "valid" definition of science is, and why have so many school teachers and college professors and textbooks gotten it wrong all these years?

Wasn't it scientist that came up with the age of the earth being millions of years old? What "scientific observation" did they use to come up with that? I think it is futile. In the book of Job chapter 38, GOD starts telling him (mankind) things that he (mankind) cannot possibly know. One of...

I'm a very old lady. The "valid" definition keeps changing.

He made a blanket statement that science supports scripture, so i pointed out that some of scripture is not supported by science.

OK. I haven't seen any science textbook that says the earth is under 10000 years old. About how old do you think the earth is? OK, this is starting to get off topic (imagine that!) of what shape the earth is. My main interest is the connection to scripture. I can't imagine anyone could read...

Thank you.

Most I know do. There is no other length of time given in scripture for the creation except for 6 days. Scripture is information. The word of GOD is information.

Science does not support the 6 day creation, nor the virgin birth, so no, all science does not support the Bible. I don't know why you would claim that all science support the Bible when you know very well it does not. That's not the conclusion science comes up with. Does science claim that the...

If that is what you think I'm doing then I won't bother you any more with questions.

Then don't be making a blanket claim that science confirms scripture when the virgin birth was specifically one of things I listed. The creation itself was a supernatural event. Science gives explanations, but none of them agree with the 6 day creation of scripture. Do you accept the science...