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Is there anything someone want to post on this topic that isn't mindless stupidity or are we finished here?

Calling someone who a hypocrite who is being hypocritical ISN'T an ad hominem! Good Lord please somehow have people figure out what "ad hominem" means before letting them post stupidity like this on the internet!!!!!

That isn't all you did and you know it. Don't destroy what has been at least a somewhat descent discussion by stooping to stupidity and lies. You presented those words in response to my pointing out that Freemasons and Shriners in particular do a great deal of good when it comes to helping sick...

Translation: "I've run completely out of anything substantive to say so I'm going to resort to ad hominems." Hypocrite!

Except that there seems to be no evidence that the Freemasons amount to much of a tare, if any at all. What harm do they do to anyone? I mean, if they're evil, they're simultaneously one of the largest and wealthiest and most totally ineffective forces of evil the world has every seen!

This sort of thing is the main reason I consent to participate in discussions with conspiracy theorists. They are their own best refutation. It's never very long before they begin to just sound completely ridiculous. What Jesus said in Matthew 6 has exactly NOTHING to do with what we're talking...

I dismiss your interpretation of history and I've stated at least once already that I do not hold people responsible for the transgressions of their ancestors. Do you reject the observance of Easter and Christmas because of their history? Do you and your wife have any desire to get rid of...

If you think that love and justice are at odds with each other than you do not know God.

They knew it was wrong after they were told, which was BEFORE they committed the offense or else there would not have been an offense - by definition. Well there's your opinions and then there's God's own word. The whole of Romans 5 is false if what you say is correct. Romans 5:12 Therefore...

No, it wasn't Jesus and it really isn't a matter of opinion. Jesus was intended to be the last King but not the first nor the only. This is evidenced by God's direct involvement with replacing King Saul with King David. Also, it can be no mere coincidence that Israel's first king being a man...

I don't understand this response. My point was simply to point out that I'm not making this stuff up and have solid biblical basis for all of it. It doesn't have anything to do with rationalizing anything. On the original point about the effect of their eating of the Tree, just think it...

Having a king over Israel was always the plan. Israel's error wasn't in wanting a king, it was in not being patient enough to wait on God's timing. That, of course can be established but it seems a bit much for this post. Your disagreement is irrelevant. It isn't a matter of opinion. Anyone...

You cannot seriously believe that Adam didn't know he was doing wrong when he ate of the Tree! Also, "God is not unjust." was the scriptural portion of my argument. In other words, if Adam was incapable of knowing right from wrong, then he was incapable of any action that was worthy of death (or...

It is democracy that is pushing this nation toward the left, not Hagel, not the French and certainly not Freemasonry. Joseph McArthy's efforts to root out Communism was the last real effort anyone has made to rid our society of Marxist dogma (some might count Trump's efforts in this regard but...

Adam and Eve could discern good from evil before eating from the tree. Obey God = Good Disobey God = Evil It wasn't hard and they weren't stupid, nor is God unjust.

This nonsense is close to being an intentional lie except that I believe that you believe what you wrote here. Suffice to say that you've either been lied too or are just flatly wrong. For those who use the phrase as a motto, it means "God and my moral rightness". ‘Deus Meumque Jus’ is a Latin...

Your bias is startling. Some significant percentage, although not a majority, of the people who founded the most free, prosperous, tolerant and generous nation the world has ever seen were Freemasons, including its first president, who, instead of being the power hungry politicians that masonic...

Why do you only list the villains of history who were Masons? Why not include the good guys? George Washington Benjamin Franklin Mozart Beethoven Mark Twain John Wayne Mark Twain Charles Lindburg Winston Churchill Etc., etc, etc Not that even a list of the good guys is really relevant. It's...

So, you don't seem to be getting the message. You'll get nowhere with me on this subject because I happen to know FOR A FACT that its all a bunch of nonsense. This knowledge doesn't come from books I've read that were written by authors I don't know and who clearly want to convince the world...

Look, you guys, I'm telling you, I have it directly from two Masons who I knew personally very very well (I've known more than those two but didn't have the same sort of close relationship). They were both in the Scottish Rite and the Shriner's. There's no Satan worship and the only time they...