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Just as that which "tends toward" life is the good. In other words, this would be a redundancy. The point is that the basis for and premise of good is life and the basis for and premise of evil is death. As the scripture affirms... Deuteronomy 30:15 “See, I have set before you today life and...

Okay, so maybe it will help to focus the discussion by zeroing in on what we're really talking about here. I'll try to at least touch on the major points of disagreement. Let me know if I fail to do so. What we are talking about is, more or less, the problem of evil and what you are trying to...

It would go a long way toward preventing such treatment if you posted something more substantive than just a pithy sounding comment that is naked of anything to establish it as more than something you just made up off the top of your head. Tell people what in the world it is that you make you...

@Lon, I think you might have missed Derf's point (or one of them anyway). Let me phrase the point in the form of a question... IF Adam and Eve, having been created good, would not have eaten of the Tree (i.e. sinned) without temptation, then it would follow that the same would apply to Lucifer...

Lon, I had a whole post written in detailed response to this hypocritical post and I just deleted it. Here is the whole thing in a nutshell.... Saying it doesn't make it so and repeating your position doesn't stand as a rebuttal of a refuted point. You are taking generally true statements...

That which promotes life is the good and that which promotes death (i.e. the negation of life) is the evil but neither exists in the sense that good and evil are some sort of substances where they exist in the ontological sense of the word "exist". I suppose you could say that good exists in...

I stand by my statement and do so firmly. Bit players that had something to do with killing people not withstanding. I'm not aware of anything that either of us have said that hasn't been cordial. Disagreement should not be interpreted has hostility - especially on a text based web forum where...

No. By your criteria the angel that passed over the Jews in Israel, the frogs, locusts a hail all had ministries of death. The role in killing people does not raise to the level of a ministry of death in any sort of manner that would qualify such things as legitimate counter examples. As I said...

There is a strong human instinct against standing apart from the crowd. People want to feel like they're normal and that they belong to the "in" crowd. If it isn't an innate instinct, it for sure is drilled into every child's head when they attend almost any school in the civilized world...

It's only controversial in that it seems to be TRYING to miss the point and ignores this supposed counter example's direct connection to the law of Moses! Yes, I had an extra "not" in there. Did it cause you to misunderstand the question?

I didn't say that the Tree and the Law were the only two things that ever killed anyone. By your reasoning, guns have a ministry of death. Are you denying that the Tree and the Law are connected?

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I didn't say that they were the only things that ever killed anyone and besides, the Bronze Surpent story is a picture of Christ where disobedience toward Moses (i.e. the law) results in death but looking upon the fiery serpent that God had Moses set on a pole, defeated that death. It's totally...

Okay, so I have to say that if even 1 person in 5 were to honestly make this exact response when challenged, I wouldn't have the time it took to type up the posts. Very very excellent response! Ad hominem happens when personal attacks are inserted as a form of argument, not just any old time...

It was NOT an ad hominem! Oh! How I wish people would learn what that term actually means! 🤣 Are you just completely ignorant of every single thing you say anything about?

You are definitely a foolish moron. The facts of the case even as presented by the regular idiotic press exonerates him. You need to wake up and smell the coffee Avajs. You are actively supporting and even participating in that which is going to destroy this nation and you along with it. Read a...

I vote for doing the :truthsmacker: simile first!

I watched that show every single night it was on. For some time it came on during my shift at a call center I worked at which was in the satellite television industry and so we had TVs all over the call center and I always put the TV nearest me on Bob Enyart live. It was well tolerated by...

That Tree was the first manifestation of the law and, indeed, the law came that the offense (i.e. the eating of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil) would abound. Also, that Tree and the Law are the only two things in scripture that had/have a ministry of death. In effect, the Law is the...

You clearly don't.