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So take a look at this lovely paragraph that Ariel is blaming me for not 'getting'. What a bunch of blah blah blah. Every other sentence is something she thinks she needs to teach, and she never does get to the point. I'll just lay out my thoughts, and, hopefully, they'll fit in...

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Show me the verse and I'll explain it to you.

Right, it couldn't be you and your lack of knowledge and what you're attempting to teach. It's got to be my comprehension level. What do you have to do to get saved? What is the gospel of salvation today?

Yep, that my goal. Cruising around and being disagreeable. However, I know exactly how that post came about. And your versions here is close. You were being told that if you didn't figure out how to get saved, you'd be going to hell. When you say he tried to "skate out of that by saying...

Not the same at all. Paul is talking about them in the past tense.....since there is neither Jew nor Gentile under grace. Peter isn't recognizing that fact and continues to call them gentiles.

Of course. There will all kinds of reprobates in heaven who have had ALL THEIR SINS forgiven. 1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Well, I wouldn't say that from the post you've presented. He is just stating a fact. It's a present fact.

What in the world are you talking about here?

That's what I keep telling you. What is your point. Get to it instead of beating around the bush all the time.

We're not talking about "the works". We're talking about those works before the law was given. Seriously? Not even when the time time of refreshing would come? There was no covenant of redemption for the Jews? Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted...

What is the gospel, Ariel? Lay it out for all to see.

Oh my goodness. Are you being faulted for giving too much scripture? You are a very bad boy, RD.

Yep, no hope of life. Gone forever into the lake of fire with the rest of the unsaved.

Yep, that's a good one. From prophecy we have.... Psalm 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.

You seem to be missing a lot of points while you're busy telling others they're missing points. Perhaps we have a failure to communicate.

Yep, no doubt about that. His "familiar" friend, I think it was. John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Right, they may learn not to blaspheme. They may not learn, but that doesn't mean they would lose their salvation. It just means that they will be hounded by satan with trials and tribulation.

No, only their body was dead. What Paul is talking about is that there would be no hope of resurrection or even life after death if Jesus hadn't died on the cross. That would be perished....gone forever with no hope of life.

You make it sound like God hasn't always required works. When has He not before this age of Grace? You're way too emeshed in covenants. You're seeing them everywhere, even where they aren't.