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By this He purchased or obtained the Holy Spirit to come into their lives. Whomever the Blood of Christ redeems, washes from their sins, the Holy Spirit must and will give life. Gal 3:13-14 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written...

It would be different if i didnt have a scripture to validate what Im saying.

Rehearse with me what the aspects of Salvation I have listed sir

Its called confirming what is believed with scripture.

Trusting in the arm of the flesh ! When man doesnt understand their spiritual deadness in the flesh, and yet reasons that they in a unregenerate spiritually dead state, they can still do something, render some kind of obedience, put forth some kind of effort, to please God and find acceptance...

JR Lol, this is funny. I see it as a great blessing to find scripture that verifies the doctrines I testify to !

You haven't paid attention to a thing I have posted asking a question like that sir.

I didnt say you didnt address, but didnt discuss, big difference. You can address a post by reading it, make a quote, and respond with one or two words of negativity, and thats it. Is that what you call discussing sir ? You have never attempted to discuss my posts and thread in an attempt to...

Jn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. If each sentence of scripture is given due regard, more often than not we can find something spiritually instructive, for Paul wrote 2 Tim 3:16 All...

By this He obtained eternal redemption for all His People Heb 9:12, He finished the work Jn 17:4; 19:30. He secured His peoples Salvation, they legally saved from the penalty of all their sins, they legally have an eternal inheritance, of which they will begin to partake of. Heb 9:15 And for...

We dont preach the cross, the blood of Christ without testifying to the efficacy of the same. Paul wrote Gal 6:14 14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. The cross, the blood of Christ...

There you go, not wanting to discuss what I posted, just say Im wrong and go about your business without taking time to explain nothing, whereas I took time to explain what I believe about the aspects of salvation. I used maybe a few hundred words, you used 3, you are wrong !

You havent showed nothing. You just simply dismiss. You havent proved anything wrong. You never take time to things like that.

jr Thats lame, chapter and verse that says the natural man does have spiritual ears to hear. When you counter an argument without evidence it can be dismissed without evidence.

jr And you call this discussion, to make a blanket statement like that !

You dont believe Election has anything to do with salvation ? Thats what it mainly has to do with, Salvation. What you think the election of grace means sir in Rom 11:5-6 ? Is that Salvation being discussed ?

I said men dont come to or seek after the God of Election and you said False !

What are the fourfold of aspects of Salvation I shared sir ?

You havent showed me anything, Im the one doing the showing. All you do is say false, or it doesnt say that ! You call that discussion ?

jr Yes the man that has been given spiritual ears to hear, made alive, the saved man. The lost man cant believe the Gospel because its foolishness to him, 1 Cor 2:14 and its concealed to him 2 Cor 4:3-4. I have been explaining these things here for years sir. Man comes only after he has been...