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Becoming a believer is all of Grace, a Creation of God. Its 100% of Grace, since becoming a believer is the outcome of Gods creative workmanship Eph 2:8-10 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast...

I been showing you scripture , Gods saving, forgiving sinners is for Christs sake. Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. 1 Jn 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you...

You dont get the Eternal aspect of Salvation.

You dont get it. God saving people is in obligation to Christ, Christs death brings about Saving results, and you fight against that, because you teach that people Christ died for die in their sins anyway. Arent you fazed at that ?

You still dont get it do you ?

It has nothing to do with anyone telling God what to do. Its between God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. The obligation to save is to His Son, Its Christ that died and put away the sins of the Elect, and so God for His sake must save them !

As per the opening post, the Eternal Aspect of Salvation 2 Tim 1:9 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Who hath saved us according to His own...

And we by Him ! 1 Cor 8:6 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. As believers in the True God and Christ, it is so by the doing of Jesus Christ. Believers, Saints are by Him...

Sins are forgiven because Christ died for them, thats God justice done. He must forgive all for whom Christ died and never impute sin to their charge or He would be unjust to Christ and Himself.

It would be wrong for God, and unjust for God to not forgive any sinner Christ died for. It would be unjust for God to even impute sin to any sinner Christ died for, therefore its written Rom 4:7-8 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed...

The One and True God saves 100% by His Sovereign, Discriminate, Grace, yet the difference lies not within man, but His Own Pregative Rom 9:15,18 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Therefore hath he...

You still dont get it. God is obligated to save sinners Christ died for. The obligation is to Himself since Jesus is God. Hes obligated to His Justice to do what is right. Its right for God , its just for God to save each sinner Christ died for.

Also Christ was obligated to die for the sins of the elect, all part of a Covenant arrangement before the foundation. Hebrews read Heb 2:17 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to...

Its been proven, He saves sinners for Christs sake. Salvation, forgiveness is for Christs sake Eph 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. Its for Christs sake because He died for that purpose !

The flesh [unregenerate man] profits nothing. There is nothing in a way of obedience, or doing anything good, that can gain man acceptance with God or Salvation, all we can do is useless. The reason is because men in the flesh cant please God. In fact the True God isnt even known by man...

marke Thats where you are dead wrong friend, God is obligated to save every sinner Christ died for because Christ died for them and fully satisfied Gods Law and Justice for them, He satisfied for them their rejection of Him, for thats what sinners do ! Hes obligated to save them for Christs Sake !

You say yes, but how could you when you teach and believe that sinners Christ died for remain lost and ultimately die in their sins in unbelief.

In fact, all scripture, from Gen to Rev is solely the property of Christs Body the Church, as well as all of the True teachers of scripture belong to the Church 1 Cor 3:21-23 21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's; 22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world...

Do you believe in the saving death of Christ? Or do you believe that sinners Christ died for shall be lost in their sins? Simple yes or no please

Do you believe in the saving death of Christ ? Meaning that His death effects Salvatiion for everyone He died for ?