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    Battle Royale XIV discussion thread

    The Greek word Cosmos is almost exclusively used for the civilization ON this planet, NOT for the planet. John 1:10 He was in the world (Cosmos), and the world (Cosmos) was made by him, and the world (Cosmos) knew him not. This is NOT talking about the planet, and the animals "knew him not"...
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    No, it doesn't. NT:2889 orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by implication, the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): (Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright ©...
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    Yes, verse 10-12 are discussing "God, even thy God"... which is YHVH God, and which "anointed thee (Christ) with the oil of gladness". So, how is YHVH Christ's God ..... if they are "Co-equal"??
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    Psa 102 is about YHVH God, NOT Jesus; Ps 102:1 Hear my prayer, O Jehovah, and let my cry come unto thee. Ps 102:12 But thou, O Jehovah, wilt abide for ever; and thy memorial (name) unto all generations. Ps 102:16 For Jehovah hath built up Zion; He hath appeared in his glory. Part of this...
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    Yep, this name proves God is NOT against us. Isa 8:10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us. Jesus stated about 20 times that his God "is in heaven" ... NOT was standing there speaking to them; Matt 5:16 Let your light so...
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    In the first place, the fact that Jesus worships the God of the Jews completely contradicts the trinitarian teaching that Jesus and God are co-equal. In the second place, the point is the Scriptures make clear and simple statements regarding Jesus and YHVH God that establish them as two distinct...
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    This would be a wonderful discourse ..... if you were looking in a mirror when you said it. The Scriptures clearly, and repeatedly state that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, was promised prophetically to Eve (Gen 3:15), to Abraham (Gal 3:16) , to Moses and all of Israel (Deut 18:15-19, Acts...
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    The same way ALL the righteous shared glory with our Creator as He PLANNED His Creation: Rom 8:28-30 And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, (even) to them that are called according to (his) purpose. 29 For whom he foreknew, he also foreordained (to be)...
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    Jesus came into literal existence, even for YHVH God, in Bethlehem. Jesus was FORETOLD in MANY prophecies "from of old, from everlasting". Mic 5:2 But thou, Beth-lehem Ephrathah, which art little to be among the thousands of Judah, out of thee shall one come forth unto ME that is to be ruler...
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    Saying this is so does not make it so. Sure, Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego .... Peter, James and John .... Noah, Job and Daniel. Your point is utterly meaningless, UNLESS you produce ANY Scripture that states: "God is three distinct persons". THIS is a classic example of the failed "logic" of...
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    So, what we have seen so far: The statement that there are no Scriptures that "state, explain or describe" the trinity has been shown to be true. The BEST "Scripture" offered was the most notorious spurious text in existence (1 John 5:7). The actual Scriptures offered in support of trinitarian...
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    I am not forgetting that trinitarians CLAIM to be monotheistic. I am very aware that trinitarian theory is self-contradictory. There is NO difference between a person and a being, so you have a three Gods in one God impossibility at the core of your theory. It took over 3 centuries for this...
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    You are deliberately avoiding the fact that there are zero Scriptures that "state, explain or describe" the trinity. We all know there are many verses trinitarians claim "support" their theory. By stark contrast, there are MANY verses that clearly and simply state that YHVH God is "the ONLY true...
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    I think you are referencing my statement: "That Jesus and the other Jews worship the TRUE God." And, here is the Scripture that states this fact: John 4:21-22 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the...
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    The definition of LOGOS includes "reason". God's "reason" is expressed by His words. God's power is conveyed by His words. YHVH God IS "the Creator of everything", and Jesus is the Creators "holy servant": Acts 4:24-31 And when they heard this, they lifted their voices to God with one accord and...
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    ....... wow! How ironic that the "one verse is all you get" is the most blatantly obviously false "verse" ever. The coercion required to get Erasmus to include this verse into his 3rd edition is legendary!! Second ..... this verse doesn't actually state ANYTHING to prove the trinity! We all...
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    Nope. My version of John 1 is exactly what John wrote, using the exact same definition of "logos" that John uses throughout his writings. Logos means words. Always. Like this: John 14:23-24 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words (LOGOS): and my Father will...
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    Sadly, your refusal to actually discuss the plain, simple statements of Scripture shouts volumes regarding the weakness of the theory you represent. The Scriptures plainly, and simply state that Jesus IS YHVH God's holy servant, and is the direct descendent of Eve, Abraham, Judah, David and...
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    Of course Jesus and his God are one .... EXACTLY like ALL believers are one with God, and God's anointed: John 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that...
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    Sorry, if the scribes knew the Scriptures so well, Jesus wouldn't have told them: John 5:38-39 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. As to...
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