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  1. beloved57

    Limited atonement !

    Yes a person is a seed of Abrahm before they are born, like Issac was. Believers are like Isaach was Gal 4:28 28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
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    Limited atonement !

    Those verses are fine, they have nothing to do with your off the wall comment. Also another off the wall comment "(which is through the exercise of faith, as shown in the previously cited verse), Christs seed, is His before they are born, Just like Isaac was the seed of Abraham before he was...
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    Faith to believe on Christ !

    Christ the author of our Faith ! Heb 12:2 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. This is a broad statement, inclusive of the fact that He...
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    Do you believe in predestination ?

    arthur But it does. Gods foreknowledge is grounded in His predetermined counsel/will Acts 2:23 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: So Gods determinate counsel and foreknowledge are joined...
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    idolater Yes, He sets at the right hand to make intercession for Gods Elect or Church which He died for and rose again Rom 8:33-34 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is...
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    Limited atonement !

    Thats not biblical.
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    Yes, Elect sinners. God elected sinners for Salvation, so yeah, He elected them to be sinners. However there are sinners He made and it wasnt for Salvation, but for damnation, and consequently Christ didnt become their substitute, they on their own.
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    We know that God elected individuals to Salvation because they as individuals believe in time, yet they were ordained to eternal life before time Acts 13:48 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life...
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    Doctrine of Unconditional Election

    That God chose individuals to Salvation in Election is bore out by the phrase names, which is personal. Rev 13:8 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Lk 10:20...
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    Limited atonement !

    That God only intended Salvation for a particular people, and Christ died only for that people is seen in Gods Covenant Promises, Gen 17:7 .And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and...
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    Do you believe in predestination ?

    Men have a choice, yet their/our choice is guided and determined by Gods predestination.
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    Christ is the elect sinners substitute in His Intercession and Advocacy right now in Heaven for them 1 Jn 2:1-2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation...
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    It means before time began. I showed you that.
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    I agree with that.
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    It means before time. Before the world began 2 Tim 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, The word world here is chronos : time either long...
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    Christ was and is the elects sinner substitute surety not only in His sin penalty ending death, but also in His God Honoring life of Righteousness, living for them that righteous life that Gods Holy Law requires, summed up here, when Jesus was asked: Matt 22:35-40 Remember Paul wrote to the...
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    The Lord Jesus Christ stood as the elect sinners substitute in time at the Cross. As subtitute at the Cross, Christ was made a curse and died under the penalty of Gods Law for the sins of all Gods elect or Sheep. It was the iniquity of all Gods Elect tht were laid upon Him Isa 53:6 6 All we...
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    Christ is the Elects Substitute.

    The substitutionary death of Christ is a vital Gospel Doctrine. The word means: a person or thing acting or serving in place of another. to put (a person or thing) in the place of another. to take the place of; replace. Christ as Surety took the place of sinners who had transgressed Gods Law...
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    Do you believe in predestination ?

    @JudgeRightly False statement, a bunch of individuals have been chosen by God for Glory ! The Group is a group of individuals, the Church. Its comprised of individuals. 1 Cor 12:18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. The very word group...
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    Limited atonement !

    Christ didnt die for all mankind, but He died for them that had their names written in the Lambs Book of Life from the foundation of the World Rev 13:8 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of...
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