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  1. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You have yet to explain WHY we see in perspective. I think it is important to understand how the human eye works so that you can determine if the human eye can be trusted to accurately reflect the world around us or if it ha limitations that force us to go beyond what our eyes are telling us...
  2. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This does not explain why the setting, or rising, sun would appear or disappear from bottom up over an ocean where are no mountains. Once again, your explanation fails to cover all observed data.
  3. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    This is an unsupported assertion by you that requires you to provide supporting evidence. You claim that NASA is part of a vast conspiracy to hide flat Earth from the populous. Yet flat Earth proponents have provided no evidence that NASA is actually wrong. Claiming that they are lying means...
  4. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No. I was technically referring to the visible horizon. Where I live, the visible horizon can be up to 146 miles away.
  5. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    You have avoided the question regarding the horizon. On a flat Earth model, how far away is the horizon? What limits the eye from seeing past the horizon? How far can the human eye see? Keep in mind that the human eye that the human eye responds to light, not distance. Here is a brief...
  6. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Land masses NEVER block the horizon line - they are part of the horizon.
  7. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    He uses words link sinks into. If the sun is moving in in a parallel path above a disk, what does it sink into? When the sun sets over land there is no reflection for it to sink into. What is happening when the sets over land.
  8. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    As soon as you said "almost" you destroyed your own argument. Science never accepts almost. Your theory must accurately explaine observed data every single time. you just claimed that "the space between the sun and the Earth disappears before the sun itself disappears." You need to support...
  9. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    When you watch the sunset, does the sun shrink to a dot at the horizon or does it disappear from the bottom up? Perspective says it should shrink to a dot yet this is not what you actually see. Why is that? Why does the sun disappear from the bottom up? Why does it rise from the top down...
  10. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    "Obviously" is the wrong choice of words. The sun is either very close and very small or it is very far away and very large. If it is very far away, from our point of view, perspective will make it appear small. You cannot rely only on your eyes to determine what is going on. You must do the...
  11. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    No, it's not. If you get yourself a piece of welding glass and use it to look at the sun you will clearly see the solar disk. If you put two marks on that piece of glass that mark the diameter of the sun and then check it throughout the day, you will see that the sun is always the same...
  12. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Your graph may consider perspective but it does not accurately represent what is actually observed. Your graph predicts that the sun will be smaller in the morning and the evening and larger at mid day. Observations of the sun indicate that from sun up to sun down, the sun is always exactly...
  13. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    The declination angle is: arctan(6/15838) = -0.0217 degrees. You cannot mix inches and feet as you did, they must be the same units. The main problem that you have is that you are ignoring that on a flat Earth, you must also look down to seen the horizon. On a flat Earth the surface never...
  14. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Perspective does not explain a sun setting behind a horizon nor how we observe sunsets. Your hypothesis does not match observable facts and is, therefore, wrong. Atmospheric density does not explain anything. Density varies as a function of altitude and hi and low pressure system. Please...
  15. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    If you don't know the calculation then there is no way you can form a convincing argument. Learn some basic geometry and figure out the angle one has to look down to see the horizon. It is very simple math so give it a go. Because even on a flat Earth, one must look down to see the horizon.
  16. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave, images don't prove anything. Math does.
  17. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Dave, you say that you have to look down to see the horizon. Can you tell us how much we have to tilt ours heads down to see the horizon?
  18. CabinetMaker

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    #DFT_Dave, you missed this one and I'd like to see your answer.
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