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JudgeRightly

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So that's a no on the whole verifying and corroborating it then?

That's the kinda thing that adults, especially those with critical thinking skills do. But hey...

That's rich, coming from someone who, when presented plenty of evidence that illegals are not, in fact, "integrating into our society," thinks that questioning the credibility of the multiple different sources I posted was a valid strategy for argumentation!

You've blinded yourself to the truth, AB.

Not surprising, given the current state of your own country, which disallows freedom of speech and has practically thoroughly disarmed its citizens, all while allowing foreigners to roam the streets with impunity, harassing and raping women and children, and demanding Sharia law be implemented.

Oh! How England has fallen!
 

Arthur Brain

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That's rich, coming from someone who, when presented plenty of evidence that illegals are not, in fact, "integrating into our society," thinks that questioning the credibility of the multiple different sources I posted was a valid strategy for argumentation!

You've blinded yourself to the truth, AB.

Not surprising, given the current state of your own country, which disallows freedom of speech and has practically thoroughly disarmed its citizens, all while allowing foreigners to roam the streets with impunity, harassing and raping women and children, and demanding Sharia law be implemented.

Oh! How England has fallen!
"Evidence" does not come from social media sites - X, Facebook, TikTok etc don't count, if you want it to be taken seriously that is. I get all sorts of stuff in my own feeds and wouldn't think about presenting any of it as evidence for a position unless it contains a link to a credible source that can be validated and fact checked with other sources. Frankly, given your very strange notions about England one can only wonder if you ever consult any credible source or whether you only read stuff that reaffirms misinformed confirmation biases...

That's not "blinding oneself to the truth". As much as you might be convinced by talking heads and the like on X, I sure ain't.

You've clearly never been to England in order to have such a bizarre and skewed opinion of the country. Still, I suppose if far right social media is where you get your info from it's hardly that surprising. We have freedom of speech just fine thanks. I can openly criticize various political administrations, attend peaceful protests and share a myriad opinions without fear of being carted off to jail etc. This isn't Russia or North Korea where the slightest hint of insurrection to the regime leads to just that and worse.

Our citizens aren't armed anyway so pretty hard to disarm them. Like plenty of other countries there's no guns and we fair just fine thanks and have a lot lower crime rate compared to across the pond by way of.

Um, where in blazes you get the nutty concept that foreigners are allowed to harass and rape women and children with impunity is beyond anyone's guess. Of course they aren't. Have you had a sanity test lately?!!
 

Nick M

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Get the "anchor babies" out too. I told you here 15 years ago they are not citizens. Read the text. Read it again.
Believe it or not, the Supreme Court clarified this point in the 1800s with "Indians". They are not citizens even when born here. They are not subject to our authority. Nor are anchor babies.
 

Arthur Brain

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I am not here to be charming. You are still going to hell and I still praise God for it. Let justice be served to those who spit in your face.
Well, that's probably just as well as a party of skunks have more - and sorry to burst your little bubble Nick but you aren't anyone's judge or in any position to say what anyone's fate is either. Sorry bout that!
 

JudgeRightly

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"Evidence" does not come from social media sites - X, Facebook, TikTok etc don't count, if you want it to be taken seriously that is.

Videos of crimes being committed are still evidence, Arthur, no matter where they’re hosted. If a robbery is caught on CCTV and uploaded to X, it doesn’t magically stop being evidence just because you dislike the platform. Waving it away because you don’t like the medium is willful blindness, not critical thinking.

I get all sorts of stuff in my own feeds and wouldn't think about presenting any of it as evidence for a position unless it contains a link to a credible source that can be validated and fact checked with other sources.

I notice you still haven’t brought any counter-evidence. You dismiss mine as “not credible” but offer nothing yourself. That’s not reasoning, that’s rhetoric.

Frankly, given your very strange notions about England one can only wonder if you ever consult any credible source or whether you only read stuff that reaffirms misinformed confirmation biases...

“Strange notions”? Tell that to the thousands of victims of grooming gangs in Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford, and beyond, abuse that went unchecked for years because authorities didn’t want to be called racist. That’s not my “bias,” Arthur. That’s your own country’s shameful record.


That's not "blinding oneself to the truth". As much as you might be convinced by talking heads and the like on X, I sure ain't. You've clearly never been to England

You’re right! Good guess! I’ve never been outside the US. But I don’t need to leave my borders to see that your nation has been rotting from within for decades.

Still, I suppose if far right social media is where you get your info from it's hardly that surprising.

X is hardly “far right.” It’s just one of the few places left where inconvenient facts still surface uncensored.

We have freedom of speech just fine thanks.

Really? People in the UK have been arrested for quoting the Bible on the street, for “offensive” Facebook posts, even for holding up blank protest signs. That isn’t “freedom of speech just fine,” Arthur. That’s state-approved speech with a polite smile.

Our citizens aren't armed anyway so pretty hard to disarm them. Like plenty of other countries there's no guns and we fair just fine thanks and have a lot lower crime rate compared to across the pond by way of.

Exactly. Your citizens were neutered long ago. And “fair just fine”? Knife crime, machete attacks, acid attacks, skyrocketing sexual assault rates… but hey, at least nobody owns a gun, right?

Um, where in blazes you get the nutty concept that foreigners are allowed to harass and rape women and children with impunity is beyond anyone's guess. Of course they aren't. Have you had a sanity test lately?!!

Impunity? Again: Rotherham. Rochdale. Telford. For years police ignored thousands of assaults precisely to avoid “community tensions.” That’s not my imagination, Arthur. That’s the record of your own government.

So you can keep sneering about “credible sources,” but your own press already proved me right. You just don’t want to face it."
 
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