ICE agent shoots a driver.

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You sound like you would easily fit in with the Nazi brown shirts of the 1930s. Nothing wrong with loading Jews onto rail cars, it's the law after all.

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Perhaps you'd feel more at home in South Africa enforcing apartheid. Once again the law, that you follow unthinkingly.

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Maybe 1950s Alabama, you could have been the thug to throw Rosa Parks off the bus.

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Sometimes the law's an ass. But you like seeing 5 year olds arrested. Citizens held for hours. People shot in the back at point blank range with no investigation. One day you might hear the words "Get away from me, I never knew you."

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Sometimes the law's an ass.
Sometimes so are people who don't like to follow the law.
But you like seeing 5 year olds arrested.
That one has been debunked. The father left him, the other family members wouldn't take him, so the feds took care of him, and reunited him with his father, eventually. You should reassess your news sources (kind of like the appendix thing, eh?)
Citizens held for hours.
Hours? Is that all? When they are impeding law enforcement?
People shot in the back at point blank range with no investigation.
There was enough of an investigation to know the guy had previously attacked one of the feds' vehicles. He obviously was impeding law enforcement, was obviously unstable, and then he starts carrying a gun while opposing law enforcement.
One day you might hear the words "Get away from me, I never knew you."
Finish the quote:
Matthew 7:23 NKJV — “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Isn't that the very definition of those who impede law enforcement?
 

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You can't afford a TV? There's no one blinder than he who refuses to see.

Anyone can make a claim and say, "just look for yourself!"

But claims presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, and "just look for yourself" isn't evidence.

Be specific: What about ICE is evil?

Don't make vacuous claims and expect us to just roll over and believe them.
 

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Obama deported more illegals than impotent Trump and didn't need to resort to public executions of citizens.

You sound like you would easily fit in with the Nazi brown shirts of the 1930s. Nothing wrong with loading Jews onto rail cars, it's the law after all.

Perhaps you'd feel more at home in South Africa enforcing apartheid. Once again the law, that you follow unthinkingly.

Maybe 1950s Alabama, you could have been the thug to throw Rosa Parks off the bus.

You are getting dangerously close being banned for breaking rules 3 and 7.

Chill.

And while you're chilling, review the forum rules, please.

Thread 'The Current UPDATED TOL Ten Commandments' https://theologyonline.com/threads/the-current-updated-tol-ten-commandments.59431/
 

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Oh dear what an admission.

We've run across a retard who gets his news from the TV 😢
Well the TV is good for watching videos of incidents but I try to avoid the biased presentations of radical right lamestream media. I like independent journalists like David Pakman and MeidasTouch as well as commentary from late night hosts like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel. Where do you get your news? An Alex Jones fan?
 

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Obama deported more illegals than impotent Trump and didn't need to resort to public executions of citizens.
It is shameful that TOL still allows the bearing of false witness. Under the law of Moses, which is from the Lord Jesus Christ, this forum member should be executed for falsely accusing people of murder.
 

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It is shameful that TOL still allows the bearing of false witness. Under the law of Moses, which is from the Lord Jesus Christ, this forum member should be executed for falsely accusing people of murder.
Who have I falsely accused of murder? I believe Trump bears some culpability. The thing about this ICE thing is....the cruelty is the point. The brutality is not by accident. I've seen people completely pinned on the ground by agents when another agent will rush in, lift the victims glasses, and spray him directly in the eyes with whatever spray they are using. For no reason but to create misery. Any regular cop who did this would be up on charges. No rules for ICE. And you condone this? Do you believe in rule of law? I'm not sure what Mosaic law would proscribe but I'm pretty sure its against the Constitution. As a Canadian I'll readily admit I'm no expert on the constitution. But believe me, we wouldn't put up with that crap up here.
 
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I've seen people completely pinned on the ground by agents when another agent will rush in, lift the victims glasses, and spray him directly in the eyes with whatever spray they are using.

You mean this?


Yeah, turns out he was actively impeding federal agents (a crime) and then resisted arrest and broke out of his restraints multiple times (also a crime), and was rewarded by being sprayed in the face for his efforts.
 

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Who have I falsely accused of murder? I believe Trump bears some culpability. The thing about this ICE thing is....the cruelty is the point. The brutality is not by accident. I've seen people completely pinned on the ground by agents when another agent will rush in, lift the victims glasses, and spray him directly in the eyes with whatever spray they are using. For no reason but to create misery. Any regular cop who did this would be up on charges. No rules for ICE. And you condone this? Do you believe in rule of law? I'm not sure what Mosaic law would proscribe but I'm pretty sure its against the Constitution. As a Canadian I'll readily admit I'm no expert on the constitution. But believe me, we wouldn't put up with that crap up here.

Methinks you've been brainwashed by the leftist media's lies about current events.

For example:

Post in thread 'I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There.' https://theologyonline.com/threads/...e-america-is-already-there.54623/post-1924669
 

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You mean this?

Yeah, turns out he was actively impeding federal agents (a crime) and then resisted arrest and broke out of his restraints multiple times (also a crime), and was rewarded by being sprayed in the face for his efforts.
I'm not on X but regardless, I have to make clear that I only saw a clip of a few seconds. So, yeah, I don't have much context.
 

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So you are saying they are guilty and not innocent? That separates killing from murder.
So perhaps the claim of murder is subject to be proven in a court of law. How about "unnecessary and unjustifiable killing"? In Canada, the mom and the nurse would have been apprehended without the need to kill them. Our cops have far better training than ICE thugs. But like I asserted elsewhere, the brutality is the point. Teach citizens not to get too uppity about their rights. That'll come in handy right around the mid-terms, won't it?
 

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the mom and the nurse would have been apprehended without the need to kill them.

You're talking about Renee Good, right? If so, then...

Yeah, that's what they were trying to do. She was being detained. In her attempt to flee the officers who were lawfully detaining her, she struck one of them enough to push him back several feet, which is enough of a justification in the moment for him to draw his weapon and shoot her.

They were TRYING to apprehend her. She harmed an agent. They opened fire. She died as a result of her own stupidity.
 

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How about "unnecessary and unjustifiable killing
You're still wrong.

In Canada, the mom and the nurse would have been apprehended without the need to kill them.
She was ordered out of the car and instead tried to flee and hit him in the process. Your delusion is strong. Pretti assaulted the officers, the second time he got shot when the low quality Sig fired accidentally. The P320 is dangerous and should not be lawful. It fires without pulling the trigger or dropping it on the muzzle. But that is for the other thread. And that is why they fired.
 
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