Oh No Not Another Apocalypse Thread By Chrysostom

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I am getting ridiculed endlessly. What's your point?

I quote (myself):
“ [Think] of it like this. In our seventh month, July 4, 1776 we Americans declared independence from the UK. Think of it like, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams, both died on the same day, July 4, 1826, the 200th anniversary of this is coming up this year. And also James Monroe died on July 4 in 1831. Five years later. Three of our first five presidents all died on July 4th.

“ It would be like arguing that these coincidences mean that America is part of God's deliberate plan for the World. Our independence, plus the deaths of three of our first five presidents, all occur on the same day in our seventh month. That coincidence can't be a coincidence. Seven means Gentiles, also (where 12 means Israel, seven means Gentiles; cf. Mark 8:19-20¹). In the seventh month of the Gentiles, America was founded and three of our first five leaders died on the same day as our independence, and two of our first three died on the same exact day, which was exactly 50 years, which is 49 plus 1, which is related to jubilee, after we declared independence.

“ That's a wild theory. ”

a lamb
A Revelation -
A word mentioned 27 times in the Apocalypse. John knows the Lamb of God. Who else? John the Baptist. Who was preparing the way for the first coming? John the Baptist. Who failed to mention the seven churches? Victorinus. Who failed to associate them with the Apocalypse? Eusebius. Who doesn't get it? Nearly everyone. Home 23

¹ Also note:

$$ Re 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Those seven churches are Gentile churches. Seven means Gentiles.
 

chrysostom

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I trust the bishops as a collective, as a college, as the magisterium, which is the bishops plus the pope. They are the ones, they are the party, who preserved the Bible for us. The Apostles set in motion the magisterium, and Jesus set in motion the Apostles.
Okay so what did they tell you? Did John eat the book?
 

chrysostom

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I am getting ridiculed endlessly. What's your point?

a lamb
A Revelation -
A word mentioned 27 times in the Apocalypse. John knows the Lamb of God. Who else? John the Baptist. Who was preparing the way for the first coming? John the Baptist. Who failed to mention the seven churches? Victorinus. Who failed to associate them with the Apocalypse? Eusebius. Who doesn't get it? Nearly everyone. Home 23
a new translation
A Commentary Like No Other -
A writer named Josephine Massyngberde Ford names John the Baptist as the original writer of the Apocalypse. Hard to believe but it answers all the never ending questions of who, why and when??? He was preparing the way for the first coming. The Lamb. A word found 27 times in the Apocalypse. He didn't know it was Jesus. Home 24 MENU
 

chrysostom

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Revelation 10:10
Can we ask the question? Can we answer it? Should it be a scroll? What book?
Did Ezekiel eat a scroll or was it just a roll? It certainly was not a book as some would have it.
We do have a translation that has a scroll in chapter 5 of the Apocalypse and a book in chapter 10. That would suggest another John much later took possession of the book so he could prophesy again.
 

chrysostom

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a new translation
A Commentary Like No Other -
A writer named Josephine Massyngberde Ford names John the Baptist as the original writer of the Apocalypse. Hard to believe but it answers all the never ending questions of who, why and when??? He was preparing the way for the first coming. The Lamb. A word found 27 times in the Apocalypse. He didn't know it was Jesus. Home 24 MENU
a dog that didn't bark
A Commentary Without The Churches -
A history that doesn't connect the dots. Victorinus does not mention the seven churches. Eusebius does not associate the churches with the Apocalypse. They are looking at the original Apocalypse written by John the Baptist. It does not have the seven churches that were later added by John the Apostle. Really. Home 25
 
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