I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There.

annabenedetti

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Your side hasn’t cared about constitutional restraint in decades.

We’re done pretending otherwise.

You don’t get to suddenly demand standards you never applied to yourselves.

You're a proponent of monarchy and theodicy, so what value does the constitution hold for you that you'd care about anyone upholding it?

Although I don't know what "side" you think I'm on, I'm on the side of the Constitution. Are you?
 

Clete

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I'm not, and have never been on Facebook or Instagram. I'm not on X or TikTok, either. If I post a link to any of those, it's because the link was embedded in an article I was reading.
You're a liar.

Most of what I've feared about Trump has already happened, is happening, or could quite plausibly still happen.
A delusional liar that believes everything they hear or see on MSNBC, CNN, and yes, Facebook and TikTok and whatever other source of left wing propaganda you can find to consume.
 

annabenedetti

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You're a liar.

No. As the saying goes around here, "saying it's so doesn't make it so." I've said for years here that I wasn't on Facebook or Instagram, not that you would know that, since you don't seem to know much about people outside your range of subject interests. That you didn't know chrysostom was Catholic after his many years here and many Catholic threads here is proof of that.

What's delusional is the way MAGA don't want to admit that what the Trump administration is doing is unconstitutional, extra-judicial, and corrupt and that if Obama or Biden had done 1/100th of what the current administration is doing they'd be screaming from the walls of the Capitol building again.
 

Idolater

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... you don't seem to know much about people outside your range of subject interests. That you didn't know chrysostom was Catholic after his many years here and many Catholic threads here is proof of that.

You'll forgive him for his confusion.

@elohiym expresses his non-Catholic view on polygamy, 2004.

@chrysostom the Catholic presents HIS view, 2011.

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What's delusional is the way MAGA don't want to admit that what the Trump administration is doing is unconstitutional, extra-judicial, and corrupt and that if Obama or Biden had done 1/100th of what the current administration is doing they'd be screaming from the walls of the Capitol building again.

You guys are basically monkeys with lizard brains. We don't care what you think of us.

btw any guesses yet on the word being defined here, by an LLM?

Here's the definition of a word:

“ Negative Habits and Attitudes

Ignorance: A lack of awareness or understanding, particularly regarding social issues or cultural sensitivity.
Disrespect: A tendency to disregard social norms or the feelings of others, often manifesting in rude or inconsiderate behavior.
Aggressiveness: An inclination towards confrontational or hostile behavior, which can be perceived as a lack of civility.
Entitlement: A belief that one deserves special treatment or privileges without regard for others.
Laziness: A stereotype that suggests a lack of ambition or work ethic, often unfairly applied to marginalized groups.

“ Dispositions and Values

Defiance: A rejection of authority or societal expectations, which can be viewed negatively in certain contexts.
Cynicism: A general distrust of others' motives, leading to a pessimistic outlook on social interactions.
Materialism: An excessive focus on material wealth or possessions, sometimes seen as a lack of deeper values or priorities.

“ It's crucial to note that these traits are not inherent to any group and can be found across various demographics. ”

Guess the word.

It was ChatGPT 4o-mini or something like that, if that helps.
 

Clete

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No. As the saying goes around here, "saying it's so doesn't make it so."
That's my saying and is simply, "Saying it, doesn't make it so."

I can't prove that you're into social media like you're into breathing but I very definitely believe that you are because of the lunatic things you say.

I've said for years here that I wasn't on Facebook or Instagram, not that you would know that, since you don't seem to know much about people outside your range of subject interests.
I don't know anything about you because you never write anything worth the time it takes to read.

That you didn't know chrysostom was Catholic after his many years here and many Catholic threads here is proof of that.
Quite so. I do not respond to people here (mostly) I respond to the things that are said. Most of the people here are anonymous avatars as far as I'm concerned. Those that aren't know who they are.

What's delusional is the way MAGA don't want to admit that what the Trump administration is doing is unconstitutional, extra-judicial, and corrupt and that if Obama or Biden had done 1/100th of what the current administration is doing they'd be screaming from the walls of the Capitol building again.
This is just more evidence that you're drowning in social media and MSNBC-style propaganda. Your mind is broken. You haven’t lived long enough, or thought deeply enough, to realize that when you abandon objective truth, reject sound reasoning, and refuse to think past the end of your own nose, you’ll start finding whatever "truth" you want to find. And once that starts, it becomes all you ever see. You convince yourself more and more that you're the clear-headed one, when in reality, it’s your own stupidity feeding the delusion. You know the degradation of you mind is complete when you begin to see the normal people as insane and start accusing them of doing the very thing you've built your whole worldview on.

Your instinct here will be to flip what I just said back onto me.

The difference is that I have, and actually use everyday, the ONLY means anyone has of discerning truth from error.
 
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dodge2142

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I came to this clip because it was embedded in an article. I don't watch MSNBC so any comments about 'the MSM' or Rachel Maddow will be ignored. It's a short synopsis of some of what's happening now in this country that supporters of Trump won't acknowledge, because it's clear that if the friend of Epstein strongman dictator is someone they see as a divinely ordained friend of Epstein strongman dictator, they are for any unconstitutional means to not only get him all the way (since he's already well on the way) to autocratic power, but to keep him there. I could post 100 different links to authoritative experts and it wouldn't make a difference to those who are too invested in their religious or ideological or xenophobic beliefs to challenge those beliefs.


Reporter: "Do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night in front of the White House with a candle?"​
A.J. Muste: "Oh I don't do this to change the country. I do this so the country won't change me."​
I will not be lectured to by a homosexual or lesbian. Their sinful choice of their life styles speaks volumes on who they love and follow.
 

Nick M

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I don't get it.
I often quote from scripture without reference to book, chapter and verse. I expect certain people to see it right away. And I think they do, you included. For full clarity for the 6 people reading this, God's Holy Spirit said this through David.

Psalm 58
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.


This is why her, Arthur Brain, Rusha...and others will never move from their position. They are children of the devil trying to pull people from God because they hate him with all of their heart.
 

Clete

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I often quote from scripture without reference to book, chapter and verse. I expect certain people to see it right away. And I think they do, you included. For full clarity for the 6 people reading this, God's Holy Spirit said this through David.

Psalm 58
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.


This is why her, Arthur Brain, Rusha...and others will never move from their position. They are children of the devil trying to pull people from God because they hate him with all of their heart.
The Psalmist wasn't being literal. It's hyperbole, which is how I took your comment, by the way.

There is no such thing as a baby born evil, as in a screeching newborn baby who already hates God before he's ever suckled from his mother's breast.
 

annabenedetti

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That's my saying and is simply, "Saying it, doesn't make it so."

Well, it's not your saying, but you could say you borrowed it from Mark Twain.

I can't prove that you're into social media like you're into breathing but I very definitely believe that you are because of the lunatic things you say.

No you can't, but that didn't stop you from making a silly allegation you couldn't support. And then you dig the hole deeper:

I don't know anything about you because you never write anything worth the time it takes to read.

That's actually pretty funny!

Quite so. I do not respond to people here (mostly) I respond to the things that are said. Most of the people here are anonymous avatars as far as I'm concerned. Those that aren't know who they are.

This is just more evidence that you're drowning in social media and MSNBC-style propaganda. Your mind is broken. You haven’t lived long enough, or thought deeply enough, to realize that when you abandon objective truth, reject sound reasoning, and refuse to think past the end of your own nose, you’ll start finding whatever "truth" you want to find. And once that starts, it becomes all you ever see. You convince yourself more and more that you're the clear-headed one, when in reality, it’s your own stupidity feeding the delusion. You know the degradation of you mind is complete when you begin to see the normal people as insane and start accusing them of doing the very thing you've built your whole worldview on.

Your instinct here will be to flip what I just said back onto me.

The difference is that I have, and actually use everyday, the ONLY means anyone has of discerning truth from error.

So basically this is all one huge deflection from talking about any of the subject matter I posted.

Deflection from the Epstein files and the FBI's huge overtime budget to redact all Trump mentions. Deflection from the administration using altered video and disseminating disinformation, attacks on citizens, undermining and/or ignoring the constitutional rights of citizens and noncitizens, damaging the economy with his tariffs, shooting boats out of international waters without legal justification... the lengths to which his base will ignore what is happening - and why? Because their moral compasses have been corrupted by their support for a corrupt president and a corrupt administration.

Trump held a tone-deaf Great Gatsby party while the government was shut down and Federal employees and military weren't getting paid. I wonder what all the evangelicals think of the women dancing in giant martini glasses at that party.

What an embarrassment.
 
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Nick M

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Some of my favorite people. 😊 Good friends. Smart, rational, thoughtful, compassionate. Thanks for keeping their memory alive.
You won't see them in hell which is where you belong. You will be in isolation facing wrath for your hatred of all that is good.
 

annabenedetti

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On Friday evening, the Wall Street Journal published an article about the Trump administration’s negotiations with Russia over Ukraine that illuminated the administration’s approach to the world at home, as well as overseas. Authors Drew Hinshaw, Benoit Faucon, Rebecca Ballhaus, Thomas Grove, and Joe Parkinson explained that the administration’s plan for peace was a Russian-led blueprint for joint U.S.-Russia economic cooperation that would funnel contracts for rebuilding Ukraine, extracting the valuable minerals in the Arctic, and even space exploration to a few favored U.S. and Russian businessmen.​
Many of those business leaders have close ties to the White House.​
“Russia has so many vast resources, vast expanses of land,” Trump envoy Steve Witkoff told the journalists. “If we do all that, and everybody’s prospering and they’re all a part of it, and there’s upside for everybody, that’s going to naturally be a bulwark against future conflicts there. Because everybody’s thriving.”​
On ABC’s This Week this morning, Representative Don Bacon (R-NE), who sits on the House Armed Services Committee, said to host Jonathan Karl: “Putin’s the invader, he’s the dictator, he’s murdered all his opponents. But I just don’t see that moral clarity coming from the White House. We saw that Wall Street Journal article yesterday that many people around the president are hoping to make billions of dollars—these are all billionaires in their own right—from…Russia, if they get a favorable agreement with Ukraine. That alarms me tremendously. I want to see America being the leader of the free world, standing up for what’s right, not for who can make a buck…. I don’t want to see a foreign policy based on greed. I want to see it based on doing the right thing.”​
There is far more at stake here than morality, although that is clearly on the table.​
The Trump administration is replacing American democracy with a kleptocracy, a system of corruption in which a network of ruling elites use the institutions of government to steal public assets for their own private gain. It permits virtually unlimited theft while the head of state provides cover for his cronies through pardons and the uneven application of the law.​
It is the system Russia’s president Vladimir Putin exploits in Russia, and President Donald J. Trump is working to establish it in the United States of America. . . .​
As wealth and power flow through the executive branch, Trump is overriding the rule of law that is designed to protect the rest of us from self-dealing by unscrupulous individuals. On Wednesday he commuted the sentence of private equity executive David Gentile, convicted in August 2024 of defrauding 10,000 investors in a $1.6 billion scheme that included securities and wire fraud. According to Kenneth P. Vogel of the New York Times, prosecutors said the victims were small business owners, teachers, nurses, farmers, and veterans: “hardworking, everyday people.” “I lost my whole life savings,” one victim wrote about his losses. “I am living from check to check.”​
A judge sentenced Gentile to seven years in prison. He reported to authorities on November 14, was incarcerated, and was released less than two weeks later after Trump commuted his sentence.​
There is a growing sense that an elite group of wealthy people is running the world without accountability to the law, and that the Trump administration is protecting and even advancing the people in that group. That sense is key to popular anger at the administration’s refusal to release the FBI files about its investigation into sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.​
The documents from the Epstein estate released by the House Oversight Committee on November 12 showed a chummy friendship between Epstein and political, academic, and economic leaders eager to retain access to Epstein’s money, information, and connections even after he pleaded guilty to procuring a minor for prostitution.​
MAGA voters backed Trump in the belief that he would hold such people to account, but it is now clear he is protecting them instead. Indeed, as Mona Charon of The Bulwark noted today, Trump’s ally Steve Bannon, whom Charon describes as “Trump’s consigliere, strategist, propagandist, and former senior counselor at the White House,” was on such friendly terms with Epstein that it was to him Epstein turned to scrub his public image after his initial guilty plea.​
The realization that Trump is bolstering and protecting an entitled elite rather than defending everyday Americans victimized by them has dovetailed with this administration’s undermining of the economy, firing of civil servants, attacks on public health, and destruction of the nation’s social safety net to create angry references to “the Epstein class” . . . .​
 

Avajs

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I often quote from scripture without reference to book, chapter and verse. I expect certain people to see it right away. And I think they do, you included. For full clarity for the 6 people reading this, God's Holy Spirit said this through David.

Psalm 58
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.


This is why her, Arthur Brain, Rusha...and others will never move from their position. They are children of the devil trying to pull people from God because they hate him with all of their heart.
So your God does not have the power to move them? The devil is stronger? Interesting
 
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