Religious Zealotry

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Your beliefs about reality do not define reality.
Then what do you believe DOES define reality?
They are just your beliefs.
Is that what you believe?
Is that YOUR reality?
Your idea of God is not God.
Is that what you believe?
Is that YOUR reality?
It's just your idea of God.
Is that what you believe?
Is that YOUR reality?
This is true of all of us whether we are willing to recognize it or not.
Is that what you believe?
Is that YOUR reality?
Which is why we become dishonest and inhumane when we do refuse to recognize it.
Is that what you believe?
Is that YOUR reality?
As you are refusing to do.
Is that what you believe?
Is that YOUR reality?
 

Skeeter

Well-known member
Banned
Ad hominem much?
Not much, you?
Right.

Are you convinced by that?
Me neither!
Correct. Tell right divider and JR as it is there go-to response.

That might have something to do with Catholicism being more than half false and the fact that the closer you get to Oxford the further from the truth and reality you're probably getting, especially when it comes to theology.

You do have to look in the right places.

I couldn't care less what "apologists" whoever that happens to refer too, grant.
Theists with integrity.
(It's not anywhere near 9% of the population, by the way. You really do need to put down the propaganda bong you're smoking.)
You will see. As stigma lifts, it will be clear that 3% of the population is exclusively homosexual and 6% Bisexual-Predominantly homosexual.
They (homesexuals) didn't even deny it until maybe two or three decades ago.
Yes they did. While a small subset of the population attributed their orientation to abuse, the vast majority denied abuse altogether.
Before 1990 everyone knew that homosexuality was a mental disorder caused (primarily) by prolonged abuse (usually sexual) experienced between the ages of 5 and 8 years of age.
Fallacy of popularity. Parachute pants were fashionable at that time. Also, psychiatric experts removed the pathological notion on homosexuality in the 70s.
NAMBLA (The North American Man Boy Love Association), an association who's very existence is criminal, knew that this was true and used it as a strategy. Their slogan was (and probably still is), "Sex before eight or it's too late!".
The existence of a sick organization says nothing about anything accept that pedophiles exist.
Also, nearly all child molestation is a man molesting a boy (i.e. homosexual). This is why it creates homosexuals. Young boys are just figuring out that they are a boy during that time between the ages of 5 and 8 and so if their first sexual experiences are with a man then the confusion that happens is understandable.
This is not pervasive enough in the histories of gay men to be THE cause. Where do lesbians come from then? Also, the majority of molested people are straight.
You don't have to believe me. Go find a homo somewhere and ask him whether he knows anyone who was molested as a child. He might start with all the several friends he has that he knows of but keep him talking long enough and he'll tell you about his experience as well. It is close enough to being universally true, that if you successfully stopped child molestation, homosexuals would be virtually extinct within a generation, especially considering that their life expectancy is 20+ years shorter than the general population. (i.e. they generally die in their late 40s to mid 50s). In effect, homosexuals reproduce by molesting children.
Junk science. Systematic surveys do not bear this out. A minority of gays were molested. There is some indication that molestation rate is higher than the general population. One explanation for the trend is that feminine boys are molested more than masculine boys.
(In fairness, I should point out that child molestation is not THE cause of homosexuality, it is more complex than that. And also, while most homosexuals were the victims of molestation and other forms of child abuse, the reverse is not the case. Most homosexuals do not molest children.)

Try peer reviewed science by BOTH Christian and pro-homo researchers that confirm each other's work.


Does Homosexuality Shorten Life?

Cameron is a known purveyor of junk science. The AIDS crisis did decimate a large subset of the gay male population and an attempt to claim that there is an overarching destructive lifestyle based on AIDs related numbers is asinine. Prevention and treatment has improved so very much.

There is a epidemiological trend of shorter life span apart from AIDS in sexual minority populations, but it is in the neighbor hood of a few years, not decades. There is a similar trend between males and females. We do not say stop being male! Gay marriage will go a long way to close the gap. Of course we should use the discrepancy to try to help address the cause of it. Stigma and lack of family support have a huge influence. Your solution to a shorter lifespan is to kill them now. What genius.

I noticed you dropped your contention that gay people will destroy society. You have a little piece of brain, afterall.
 
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Skeeter

Well-known member
Banned
Your beliefs about reality do not define reality. They are just your beliefs. Your idea of God is not God. It's just your idea of God. This is true of all of us whether we are willing to recognize it or not. Which is why we become dishonest and inhumane when we do refuse to recognize it. As you are refusing to do.

This desperate need to pretend that you're idea of God, is God, (that you are unquestionably and undoubtably "right" about it) is making a fool of you. When a person can't be wrong they can't learn, anymore. They become unteachable. They become belligerent and dismissive in the face of any new information or perspective, and antagonistic to anyone that dares the share their own understanding with them. All in the desperate defense of their self-assumed "inerrant" righteousness.

The cure is to let go of that drug of self-righteousness and seek the divine spirit of love and forgiveness and kindness and generosity within, instead of these delusions of righteousness. But self-righteousness is very addicting, and difficult to give up. And that is sad for those who have come to depend on it so completely for their own sense of value and identity.
Post of the Year!
 

Jenkins

Active member
Just seeing words on a page will look like "word salad" to a child that has not yet learned how to read them. Fortunately, most children are willing to try and learn how. Not so for some adults.
Word salad cannot be hidden or fixed with additional ideas. Learn to communicate beyond your own desires.
 

Clete

Truth Smacker
Silver Subscriber
Not much, you?

Correct. Tell right divider and JR as it is there go-to response.


Theists with integrity.

You will see. As stigma lifts, it will be clear that 3% of the population is exclusively homosexual and 6% Bisexual-Predominantly homosexual.

Yes they did. While a small subset of the population attributed their orientation to abuse, the vast majority denied abuse altogether.

Fallacy of popularity. Parachute pants were fashionable at that time. Also, psychiatric experts removed the pathological notion on homosexuality in the 70s.

The existence of a sick organization says nothing about anything accept that pedophiles exist.

This is not pervasive enough in the histories of gay men to be THE cause. Where do lesbians come from then? Also, the majority of molested people are straight.

Junk science. Systematic surveys do not bear this out. A minority of gays were molested. There is some indication that molestation rate is higher than the general population. One explanation for the trend is that feminine boys are molested more than masculine boys.




Cameron is a known purveyor of junk science. The AIDS crisis did decimate a large subset of the gay male population and an attempt to claim that there is an overarching destructive lifestyle based on AIDs related numbers is asinine. Prevention and treatment has improved so very much.

There is a epidemiological trend of shorter life span apart from AIDS in sexual minority populations, but it is in the neighbor hood of a few years, not decades. There is a similar trend between males and females. We do not say stop being male! Gay marriage will go a long way to close the gap. Of course we should use the discrepancy to try to help address the cause of it. Stigma and lack of family support have a huge influence. Your solution to a shorter lifespan is to kill them now. What genius.
Like I said, those who have their eyes closed can't complain about the "absence of evidence" for anything.

I wonder what it will take for me to stop wasting my time on this website?
I noticed you dropped your contention that gay people will destroy society. You have a little piece of brain, afterall.
I dropped nothing. A free and civil society cannot persist for long absent morals.
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
What does the Bible say about the age range?
Ya know, at least Jefferson gave an honest (and sensible) answer on this. That where it came to unruly children in the Bible that it was referring to adults and not minors, infants etc. How come you can't even address as to whether you agree with JR that children as young as five can rightfully be executed? Do you lack the courage to give a straight answer on that? Do you agree with him or not?
 

Right Divider

Body part
Ya know, at least Jefferson gave an honest (and sensible) answer on this. That where it came to unruly children in the Bible that it was referring to adults and not minors, infants etc. How come you can't even address as to whether you agree with JR that children as young as five can rightfully be executed? Do you lack the courage to give a straight answer on that? Do you agree with him or not?
So the details are not clear in the Bible?
 
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