Arthur Brain
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Okay, what 'moral ideology' do you think the US employed? How was America central to it? Not sure how you can claim that morals were changed in that regard especially in terms of force. How does force change ideas or ideology? That's more akin to 'A Clockwork Orange' than it is to fact. Sure, many were deluded under the Nazi regime as are many under Russia's state control but knowledge brings about change and access to it, also encouragement to do so. Can't recall the name of the film which is a bit irksome but there's a line in it where people on pain of death have the chance to recant their ideology and one of the main protagonists points out the obvious. That they'll still believe as they do even if they sign a paper and force won't change or even destroy a idea.
How slow and in what way? Invading Russia is a complete non option, either now or down the line. Look, it would be brilliant if everywhere in the world valued personal autonomy, freedoms, civil liberties etc but the sad fact of the matter is they don't. They even consider their position to be moral and mired in religious ideology that can't be shifted and woe betide those who challenge it. There's folk here who think its entirely justified to usurp the rights that we have now, to incarcerate and execute homosexuals even to the point of trying children who aren't far out of diapers as adults where execution can be enacted.
I recall Trump and his supposed peace brokering with North Korea but AFAIC sabre rattling was more appropriate. It certainly isn't Trump's fault that there are totalitarian states that threaten and he's not responsible for Putin's invasion of the Ukraine in that regard, but he is responsible for his risible comments related to it.
We already have a united alliance in the West so I'm really not sure what you're driving at with the UK, Greenland, Canada etc. These are countries that along with the US already value democracy, freedom, civil liberty etc and condemn the likes of the atrocity currently going on.
