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Jn. 3:18 is talking about whether people believe or not. If they believe in Christ they will be among those who are not condemned. If...

Why did they need a savior before they rebelled? Same question on Col 1:23. Why did they need the gospel of salvation before they rebelled?

It especially includes HIS giving us a free will because without it we cannot fulfill the purpose for our creation, that is, to become...

I think he rebelled before you think he rebelled, not before he did rebel... The proof I am talking about is the proof that YHWH was...

The point of this thread wasn't to say that the creation IS a simulated reality but rather that it may be LIKE a simulated reality.

I think they rebelled against HIS claims to be divine and the only saviour in HIS gospel of salvation as mentioned in HIS proclamation...

It especially includes HIS giving us a free will because without it we cannot fulfill the purpose for our creation, that is, to become...

Ummm, then how does Jn 3:18 apply that believers (elect in my meme) are never condemend while those who never have believed are...

QUOTE="way 2 go, post: 1930208, member: 2749"] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till unrighteousness...

I find no compelling reason to ascribe inherited sin to any of GOD's attributes... Did HE do this to us for love, for justice, for ...

1. How could anyone rebel against the person who had just PROVEN HIS deity and HIS eternal power, Rom 1:20 For from the creation of the...

Which proclamation do you mean? About dying from eating of the tree of knowledge? Yes, that would make sense...if God lies and if lying...

I agree but I believe this first happened in heaven before the creation of the physical universe and then was recreated (re-enacted?)...

So nakedness was not sinful before they ate but it was sinful after they ate ... I think you mean naked bodies before eating and naked...