Heterodoxical
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You need a clue.
You need discussion, not drive by accusations.
Have some value to go with your mouth.
ECT Why shouldn't I convert from Evangelical Protestant to Catholic?
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You need a clue.
You need discussion, not drive by accusations.
Have some value to go with your mouth.
Heterodoxical
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Cabinet maker, if you wish to invest the time, I"ll go through and give you hours of discussion on what the Evangelical Protestants are missing, and then the Protestants alone if you wish. I'm not RCC because like you, Mary and a few other things bug me, but they are by far more biblically correct than we protestants are on MANY fronts.
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Can you make Rome's arguments for her?
If not, it's hard to judge them.
After setting out on that challenge, they hold MANY closer biblical truths than evangelical protestants, and protestants in general.
On a side note, I don't recall, but it seems you attend a liturgical church, no?
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You think so?
I've never seen him do it. I've seen him misrepresent them SOMEWHAT, but not horribly in the past. I thought it was a fair question.
I liked the question
and
you don't have to be fair
amr is a former papist as in jesuit
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oic. Doesn't mean he has studied Rome's claims vs the Bible, but I'm suspecting he's been taught two different ways, that's still more than most.
But, I'm telling ya, until you try to make the arguments yourself and research it all out, and work out the problems/solutions/contradictions, etc... you don't understand what is in play.
so I should be able to make the protestant argument?
Like any Christian sect, they have their good points as well as their bad. Overall, I think their bad far out weighs their good.
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At least. BUT, for you that would be a bit harder to swallow..... And since, for all polite debate technicalities, your church was around first it's established as the Status Quo and burden of proof would fall on my side of the table.
Unless of course, you made claims against my faith and then proof is on you.
And then, after dithering around in things theological for any number of years it came to me that "Love God/Love your neighbor" fairly well sums it up.
for me the biggest problem is His Church on a rock
and
the fact that Jesus changed simon's name to peter
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I concur, and even more simply, Christ said the love you show to the least of me, you show to Him.
So you can make it LOVE neighbor, and if tht love is shown in the actions, it's loving God too.
You should be worried, we think somewhat alike.
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That's my biggest objection. Rome misses that one, but I can respect how they get there.
And since it's now a salvific issue, I don't much argue it except for intellectual reasons/discussion, or if some militant Catholic is showing their posterior.....
I don't really care to make someone question their faith unnecessarily.
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Well, that's much more honest than most.
That's my biggest objection. Rome misses that one, but I can respect how they get there.
And since it's now a salvific issue, I don't much argue it except for intellectual reasons/discussion, or if some militant Catholic is showing their posterior.....
I don't really care to make someone question their faith unnecessarily.
you have to start there
either it is
or
it is not His Church
everything else depends on that
You need a clue.
You need discussion, not drive by accusations.
Have some value to go with your mouth.
Did I say they were not saved? Or that we need salvation.
Too easy
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Whatever it started out as, it now seems to be Mary's church far more than Christ's church.
when did Mary's church start?
Oh no, the church of God existed long before the church of Rome.
The difference between the two is that the church of God is a spiritual body with Christ as its head and the church of Rome is a physical corporate body with an elected man as its head. The two churches have little in common.