Nice dodge.
You need to stop pretending that you're being intellectually honest in your "study" of the scripture. The fact is that you really don't give a damn what anyone might say, do you? You're going to ignore every argument anyone ever makes. You've chosen your doctrines and arguments to the contrary be damned.
That response makes no sense whatsoever!
I'm the one, it seems, who is doing your homework for you. And while the fact that what you believe is also believed by others who are obvious nutjobs doesn't prove your doctrine false, the fact that they are the only people around that anyone can find who share your doctrine aught to at least serve as a red flag that indicates a need to reevaluate things to make sure you aren't also one of the nut jobs!
Well, Lon, that just isn't the way reality works! You don't get to shave off this razor thin aspect of a major thought process and think you can stick that in your pocket and not bring a big bunch of the rest of that thought process with it. Ideas have consequences! That isn't just a slogan, that's real!
Notice, for example, how you twist the scripture so naturally that you almost certainly don't even notice that you've done it. Colossians 1 DOES NOT say that with Him, nothing exists! That isn't what it says and that isn't what it means! It simply means that God maintains the universe. You simply cannot take the phrase "in Him" and apply it the way you're trying to apply it. Besides all the other problems such an interpretation creates that I've already presented, the bible tells us that believers are identified "in Him". In fact, its quite an interesting study to go through and look in detail at all the time Paul uses the phrase "in Him" throughout his epistles. What would any of it mean if we are already "in Him" as your doctrine explicitly teaches? If the whole universe, including every unbeliever and rebellious demon and Even Satan himself is "in Him" then what the heck is Paul even talking about?
