Why men won't marry you

serpentdove

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Seriously though, I do wonder how many men would marry under sane divorce laws.

You aren't permitted to sue your brethren :dizzy:--much less your own wife. :reals:

You husbands...live with your wives in an understanding way (1 Pe 3:7, NASB). :straight:

Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another (1 Co 6:7). :loser:
 
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serpentdove

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"You're not without your point..."
The author's point.

"...ut I'd like to add a bit to this. There are men that women love."
"I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is." :freak: ~ Forrest, Forrest Gump

"There are men that women want to marry."
People don't know whether to expect love or hate (Eccl 9:1).

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rexlunae

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[Why men won't marry you by Suzanne Venker] "Where have all the husbands gone?

That’s a question Peter Lloyd tackles in a series in London’s Daily Mail about Britain’s marriage rate, which is at its lowest level since 1895. “The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery,” Lloyd writes. “For an army of women, Mr. Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him.

There have been a lot of changes in marriage in the last century. Women used to be unable to get work on their own outside a few limited fields, and there were no rules against discrimination, which was often done blatantly. They used to be unable to get credit and other bank services. Violence against them used to be a lot more tolerated than it is now. Contraceptives weren't legal, and women were often stuck with the consequences of sex themselves, and having children out of wedlock was a lot more taboo, and there weren't government-run programs to support single mothers. And divorce was a lot harder. In many ways, society was set up to make it harder for women to do without a husband. At least a part of the decline in the rates of marriage, as well as the increase in the rate of divorce has to be due to people choosing to remain single. That isn't necessarily a bad thing.
 

Angel4Truth

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Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
Like wise humans give honor and submit to God as the " weaker-needing" vessel. Giving honor to our wife is taking care of her, protecting her, and loving her as the weaker vessel thus Glorifying God.
The wife knowing that God has given the man authority, ( not a dictator) over the woman. let's the husband have the final say as the authority. And MEN you better be doing this and doing this with Gods love for your wife. Thus, the man honor's such a woman, and in this honor, the man recognizes the extreme responsibility he has been given in this authority.

Unfortunately many men aren't stepping up to the role - loads of them want to claim the authority when it suits them, but abandon it, when it really matters and act like hes a mini god and treats his family like they are his subjects instead. Look at how many women vs men you can find in the church.
 

Angel4Truth

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[Why men won't marry you by Suzanne Venker] "Where have all the husbands gone?

That’s a question Peter Lloyd tackles in a series in London’s Daily Mail about Britain’s marriage rate, which is at its lowest level since 1895. “The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery,” Lloyd writes. “For an army of women, Mr. Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him.”

Things are no better this side of the Atlantic. According to Pew Research Center, the share of American adults who’ve never been married is at an historic high—and men are more likely than women to have never made it down the aisle (23% vs. 17% in 2012).

There was a time when wives respected their husbands. There was a time when wives took care of their husbands as they expected their husbands to take care of them.

What gives? Why are men here and abroad avoiding the altar in spades?

1. Because they can: Men used to marry to have sex and a family. They married for love, too, but they had to marry the girl before taking her to bed, or at least work really, really hard to wear her down. Those days are gone.

When more women make themselves sexually available, the pool of marriageable men diminishes. “In a world where women do not say no, the man is never forced to settle down and make serious choices,” writes George Gilder, author of "Men and Marriage."

Scoff if you wish. Call me a fuddy-duddy. But how’s that new plan working out?

2. Because there’s nothing in it for them: What exactly does marriage offer men today? “Men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,” says Helen Smith, Ph.D., author of "Men on Strike." “They don’t want to enter into a legal contract with someone who could effectively take half their savings, pension and property when the honeymoon period is over.Men aren’t wimping out by staying unmarried or being commitment phobes. They’re being smart.”

Unlike women, men lose all power after they say “I do.” Their masculinity dies, too.

What’s left of it, that is. In the span of just a few decades, America has demoted men from respected providers and protectors of the family to superfluous buffoons. Today’s sitcoms and commercials routinely paint a portrait of the idiot husband whose wife is smarter and more capable than he.

There was a time when wives respected their husbands. There was a time when wives took care of their husbands as they expected their husbands to take care of them.

Or perhaps therein lies the rub. If women no longer expect or even want men to “take care of” them — since women can do everything men can do and better, thank you very much, feminism — perhaps the flipside is the assumption that women don’t need to take care of husbands, either. And if no one’s taking care of anyone, why the hell marry?

For women, the reason is obvious: kids. Eventually most women decide they want children, no matter how long they put it off to focus on their careers. So they often nab the best guy they can find, usually the one with whom they’re currently sleeping, and convince him to get married.

If the man refuses, we call him, as Smith notes, a “commitment phobe.” But is that fair? Perhaps these men know all too well that women initiate the vast majority of divorces — anywhere from 65-90 percent, depending on demographics. And when they do, they take the kids with them and hang hubby out to dry with the help of a court system that’s heavily stacked in their favor. In the past, Mom got the kids because she was home with them doing the thankless, unpaid, mountainous work associated with that role. Today, neither parent is home, so there’s no reason the default custodial parent should be Mom.

So remind me, why would a man marry today?

No, really. What’s in it for him?" Article Heb 13:4


Reminds me of an old saying, 'why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free.'
 

rougueone

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Unfortunately many men aren't stepping up to the role - loads of them want to claim the authority when it suits them, but abandon it, when it really matters and act like hes a mini god and treats his family like they are his subjects instead. Look at how many women vs men you can find in the church.

I understand and agree with your realistic perspectives. I stated the social standards of American society have infested the church. I speak to men about this and 9x's out 10 they make it known their wives do not submit as Scripture states, but the opposite . They also do not feel in America men have a chance. ( they don't ) , Nor do they feel like men.
Again, the dominate agenda in the U.S. and the world is WOMEN. It is so pervasive that even in the church it is taught that women run the show. So much so, T.D. Jakes wrote a book, then a movie, ( starts out with a "MAN" rapes a young girl), and now holds mega-conferences always sold out, women , called " Woman Thou Art Loosed". Millions of women bought into this lie. He is another Pentecostal from the TBN crew.
I do not see any hope for a Family structured around God in this Nation. Too late. It is the Pentecostal movement that spread the venom against Gods order of Man and wife. And the role to which God ordained. I started a Thread on Pentecostals. Feel free to offer your insight.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110126
 

Daniel1611

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The world reverses everything God ordained. Sorry if my views hurt your feeling, but I didn't write the Bible. God did. Men are to be the head if the house, and women are not to be pastors. That's not Daniel1611 speaking. That's what the bible says.
 

serpentdove

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Reminds me of an old saying, 'why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free.'

You speaking for the ladies?

She's is speaking about the
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ladies (Pr 30:20).

"Fornication. Evil of: Comes from evil heart (Matt. 15:19), Sins against the body (1 Cor. 6:18), Excludes from God’s kingdom (1 Cor. 6:9), Disrupts Christian fellowship (1 Cor. 5:9–11), Spiritual fornication symbolized in final apostasy (Rev. 17:1–5)." Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1996). Nelson’s quick reference topical Bible index (p. 241). Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers.

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Angel4Truth

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I understand and agree with your realistic perspectives. I stated the social standards of American society have infested the church. I speak to men about this and 9x's out 10 they make it known their wives do not submit as Scripture states, but the opposite .

Some men have warped definition of what that means. They also have warped definitions of what leading means.


They also do not feel in America men have a chance. ( they don't ) , Nor do they feel like men.
Again, the dominate agenda in the U.S. and the world is WOMEN. It is so pervasive that even in the church it is taught that women run the show. So much so, T.D. Jakes wrote a book, then a movie, ( starts out with a "MAN" rapes a young girl), and now holds mega-conferences always sold out, women , called " Woman Thou Art Loosed". Millions of women bought into this lie. He is another Pentecostal from the TBN crew.
I do not see any hope for a Family structured around God in this Nation. Too late. It is the Pentecostal movement that spread the venom against Gods order of Man and wife. And the role to which God ordained. I started a Thread on Pentecostals. Feel free to offer your insight.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110126


If he is getting his esteem from the world instead of God, theres the problem.
 

elohiym

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On weekends and a few weeks in the summer? Even while married, children will learn the moms way of living for the most part.

Still, a divorced man can be a father, and a child will perceive and respond to his attempt to maintain that role as best as he can in the situation. They will know how much that man values them whether he's married or divorced, and when he needs them in his old age he will reap what he has sown.
 

rougueone

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Some men have warped definition of what that means. They also have warped definitions of what leading means.

Yes, some men do. But equally women in the church have usrped men.



If he is getting his esteem from the world instead of God, there's the problem.

If married, the relationship with a wife coincides with God. The marriage is between the man and woman. They compliment each other in the order God ascribed.

You ah, gettin a little snooty with me.......little missy ? :DK:
 
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