Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 6

[Idolater]

Donald Trump should share his favorite dinner jacket with them, it appears that while wearing it, it's impossible to "wank".

Where there's a will there's a way

 

[Idolater]

...If society is going to allow these mentally and spiritually lost souls to cross dress, get their genitals mutilated and engage in acts of homosexuality, it only makes sense that they're afforded the same "rights" as normal citizens.

Correctamundo.

 

[Idolater]

You're a moron who can't read. You are beyond stupid.

aCultureWarrior does not want to make masturbation illegal. He wants to make homosexuality illegal again.

And as I've argued, homosexual offense is but a type of masturbation, because there is no possibility of procreation, and that is what is denoted by 'masturbation'. There is coitus, and there is masturbation, there is no third option, and same-sex people do not have the ability to practice coitus, so all they can do is masturbate together.

You have an unhealthy obsession with the sex-life of myself and others near me. You should probably see a psychologist.

This whole thread (part six!) is about an unhealthy obsession with the sex-life of others. OP "should probably see a psychologist" then I guess?

But since you're interested in reading about the sex life of others:

Giorgi, G., & Siccardi, M. (1996). To the Editors:. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 175(3)

To the Editors:, American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology | DeepDyve

<h5>.</h5> <h5>To the Editors:</h5> Fetal movement offers the opportunity for observing fetal behavior in utero. Parents, curious to know their child's sex, frequently request visualization of the fetal genitalia. During second-trimester ultrasonographic examinations it is usual to see fetuses...

www.deepdyve.com

Your unhealthy obsession has proven my point. By going after masturbation, the Roman Imperial Church of Constantine has caused the legalization of homosexuality. Homosexuality is an evil that was rare and illegal. Masturbation is something that has been done by the majority of the population and even fetus's.

Yes, which explains why some people get so worked up about (iow an unhealthy obsession) it. Because that's perfectly human to condemn in others what you're doing yourself, and that you aren't proud of.

The Roman Imperial Church equated masturbation to homosexuality. So, no one wanted to criminalize homosexuality since they may have masturbated once.

Cite.

Even you don't want to criminalize homosexuality for some reason.

For the same reason I don't want to criminalize wanking, because they're the same thing.

That is how your crusade against masturbation has helped legalize homosexuality. As I have pointed out before, what you are doing is against God's law.

lol

Deuteronomy 4:2 NLT
Do not add to or subtract from these commands I am giving you. Just obey the commands of the LORD your God that I am giving you.

Relevance? That could mean anything, it could even mean that if you don't celebrate the Sabbath according to the Old Testament, that you're guilty of breaking Deuteronomy 4:2

Have you bothered to read the story about David yet?

It is no bother.

God disagrees with you.

Or not, and it's just you.

Leviticus 20:10 NLT
If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both the man and the woman who have committed adultery must be put to death.

Leviticus 20:13 NLT
If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

So, kill homosexual offenders? Because Deuteronomy 4:2?

Or babies.

Do babies masturbate? - Today's Parent

No, you’re not imagining it. Your baby is not too young to have discovered the joys of, ahem, self-soothing.

www.todaysparent.com

Those evil babies! No wonder so many Roman Imperialists are ok with abortion.

So we're taking ethical cues from babies now? What other virtues do babies teach us? To poop in our pants? Should we say pooping our drawers is virtuous because, hey, babies do it?

Once again you support homosexuality and you defend yourself by having a preoccupation with my personal sex life.

You are preoccupied with defending the indefensible. So I floated some ideas about why that might be.

Wanking is unethical.

The more I read from you, the more I realize that you haven't ever bothered to read the Bible.

The Bible is 100% consistent with Catholicism. In fact we read about the founding of Catholicism in the Bible. The establishment of the perpetual office of a bishop occurred within the Apostles' lifetime, by the Apostles themselves.

Romans 1:18-32 NLT
But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness. [19] They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. [20] For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

[21] Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. [22] Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. [23] And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles. [24] So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. [25] They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. [26] That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. [27] And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

[28] Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. [29] Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. [30] They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. [31] They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. [32] They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.

You idiot.

Romans 2:1-6 NLT
You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself, for you who judge others do these very same things. 2 And we know that God, in his justice, will punish anyone who does such things. 3 Since you judge others for doing these things, why do you think you can avoid God’s judgment when you do the same things? 4 Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that his kindness is intended to turn you from your sin?

5 But because you are stubborn and refuse to turn from your sin, you are storing up terrible punishment for yourself. For a day of anger is coming, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 He will judge everyone according to what they have done.

You'll pay for it in purgatory. (Which means, which I reiterate, that I take you to be a brother, a fellow believer and Christian, because only genuine Christians get to go to purgatory.) But you are wrong on this.

For the intention of all itt: Pope Saint John Paul, pray for us! In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, amen.

 

[Right Divider]

You'll pay for it in purgatory.

No such place. False RCC doctrine... like so many others.

 

[marke]

And you had better do a serious self assessment on why you support the wicked.

Isaiah 5:20

I voted for Trump but more as a means to vote against Hillary. Are you saying you think God disapproves of Christians voting for lost people? If so, have you ever voted at all?

 

[marke]

Welcome back to the WHMBR! series Right Divider. Since no one will admit that they were a huge Milo Yiannopoulos fan during the 2016 Presidential race (and I remember well having discussions with TOL'ers who admired Milo) and that they attended a "I just love my daddy Trump!" Milo Yiannopoulos college campus college rally, what are your thoughts on Donald Trump, the representative of the Republican Party, a political party who clearly stands for traditional family values in their platform, sending out a flyer denouncing Joe Biden's past history of being against homosexuality/transgenderism, thus attempting to show that he, Donald Trump, is the best thing to happen to the LGBT movement since NAMBLA?

Are you suggesting that a presidential candidate is guilty of homosexual perversion if one of his vocal supporters advocates acceptance of homosexuality? If so, can you even name a single democrat who does not support sodomy according to that standard?

 

[JudgeRightly]

I voted for Trump but more as a means to vote against Hillary.

Would you vote for Hitler or Stalin if their opponent was Satan?

 

[Hilltrot]

Would you vote for Hitler or Stalin if their opponent was Satan?

Hitler. I'm more likely to survive and the situation is less chaotic. In addition, I'm more likely to be able to read the Bible and pray without being put to death.

 

[Hilltrot]

Would you vote for Hitler or Stalin if their opponent was Satan?

Of course, I'm assuming this is a binary choice, which a third choice of not voting.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Hitler. I'm more likely to survive and the situation is less chaotic. In addition, I'm more likely to be able to read the Bible and pray without being put to death.

That's called doing evil that good might come of it, Hill.

Paul condemns that:

Romans 3:8:
And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just.

 

[Hilltrot]

And as I've argued, homosexual offense is but a type of masturbation, because there is no possibility of procreation, and that is what is denoted by 'masturbation'.

And as I've said before. There is no Biblical basis for this. This is messed-up Gnostic philosophy. Your arguments are horse manure. I've torn them apart. All you have to back you up is your god, Karol Józef Wojtyła. I have the God of Abraham and the Messiah Jesus.

And I've also asked a question which you have refused to answer. A woman who has had her uterus removed for medical reasons. Is sex with her husband masturbation?

This whole thread (part six!) is about an unhealthy obsession with the sex-life of others. OP "should probably see a psychologist" then I guess?

Opposing the homosexuality of everyone is not an interest in any particular person's sex-life. You mentioned me specifically and started describing what you imagined my sex-life to be. You didn't just mention it once, either.

Yes, which explains why some people get so worked up about (iow an unhealthy obsession) it. Because that's perfectly human to condemn in others what you're doing yourself, and that you aren't proud of.

I don't get worked up about it. You the one obsessed with equating masturbation with a Roman Imperial Priest raping a boy. You seem to do a lot of this projecting.

Cite.

I only need to cite you. You're my written proof.

There is coitus, and there is masturbation, there is no third option, and same-sex people do not have the ability to practice coitus, so all they can do is masturbate together.

Citation provided.

Relevance? That could mean anything, it could even mean that if you don't celebrate the Sabbath according to the Old Testament, that you're guilty of breaking Deuteronomy 4:2

Yes, I celebrate Sabbath but I'm not sure if you know what that is.

Sabbath Biblical Theme

What is the Sabbath? Explore the biblical concepts of seventh day rest and Sabbath and see how modern Christians can adopt this important practice.

bibleproject.com

So, kill homosexual offenders? Because Deuteronomy 4:2?

It would definitely help out. But I would recommend small steps in the right direction first.

So we're taking ethical cues from babies now? What other virtues do babies teach us? To poop in our pants? Should we say pooping our drawers is virtuous because, hey, babies do it?

If I poop in my pants, is it a grave sin?

You are preoccupied with defending the indefensible. So I floated some ideas about why that might be.

Wanking is unethical.

Just like Jesus, I really hate Pharisees like yourself.

The Bible is 100% consistent with Catholicism. In fact we read about the founding of Catholicism in the Bible. The establishment of the perpetual office of a bishop occurred within the Apostles' lifetime, by the Apostles themselves.

The Roman Imperial Church of Constantine which you serve has 0% consistency with the Bible.

You idiot.

More projection.

Romans 2:1-6 NLT
You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself, for you who judge others do these very same things. 2 And we know that God, in his justice, will punish anyone who does such things. 3 Since you judge others for doing these things, why do you think you can avoid God’s judgment when you do the same things? 4 Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that his kindness is intended to turn you from your sin?

5 But because you are stubborn and refuse to turn from your sin, you are storing up terrible punishment for yourself. For a day of anger is coming, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 He will judge everyone according to what they have done.

Who is Paul talking to? He's not talking to everyone. He is talking to sinful Jews. And once again, he is not talking about your obsession - masturbation.

You'll pay for it in purgatory.

Doesn't exist.

 

[Hilltrot]

That's called doing evil that good might come of it, Hill.

Paul condemns that:

Romans 3:8:
And why not say, “Let us do evil that good may come”?—as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just.

That would be a good point if you could show that making that choice in the fictitious scenario you provided is evil without begging the queston.

 

[marke]

Correctamundo.

Homosexuals have the right to engage in immoral perverted gutter sex, but that is not good and not healthy.

 

[marke]

And as I've argued, homosexual offense is but a type of masturbation, because there is no possibility of procreation, and that is what is denoted by 'masturbation'. There is coitus, and there is masturbation, there is no third option, and same-sex people do not have the ability to practice coitus, so all they can do is masturbate together.

One major difference between sodomy and other types of sex is that sodomy is specifically condemned by God by name and other sexual fantasies and perversions are not identified by name.

 

[marke]

Would you vote for Hitler or Stalin if their opponent was Satan?

No. Neither did I ever vote for Sanders, whose opponent was the devil in the 2016 democrat primary.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Is Joe Biden one of the wicked?

And here I thought that my 6 part thread that has gone on for several years answered that question already.

Does Planned Parenthood* promote abortion?

Did Playboy** founder Hugh Hefner promote pornography?

Does the wolf circling the hen house intend on having a chicken dinner?

Why address the obvious? It's the wolf in sheep's clothing that does more harm than the one that is out in the open, and that's been a theme of this thread since rainbow flag waver Donald Trump became President.

*According to Donald Trump, Planned Parenthood "does very good things".
** Donald Trump was on the cover of Playboy and was interviewed inside the smut magazine. Evidently the mass murder of 10,000 freedom loving unarmed dissidents at Tiananmen Square by the Chinese communists was an act of "strength". Silly me, I always thought that mass murder was an act of barbarianism.

My turn to ask a question:

Does Milo Yiannopoulos still love his "daddy" Donald Trump?

 

[ok doser]

Is Joe Biden one of the wicked?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

aCultureWarrior said:


...If society is going to allow these mentally and spiritually lost souls to cross dress, get their genitals mutilated and engage in acts of homosexuality, it only makes sense that they're afforded the same "rights" as normal citizens.

Correctamundo.

At least you're admitting that you embrace libertarian so-called "values", something others around here are too ashamed to admit. (aCW gives idolater a good hearty golf clap).

 

[aCultureWarrior]

aCultureWarrior said:
Welcome back to the WHMBR! series Right Divider. Since no one will admit that they were a huge Milo Yiannopoulos fan during the 2016 Presidential race (and I remember well having discussions with TOL'ers who admired Milo) and that they attended a "I just love my daddy Trump!" Milo Yiannopoulos college campus college rally, what are your thoughts on Donald Trump, the representative of the Republican Party, a political party who clearly stands for traditional family values in their platform, sending out a flyer denouncing Joe Biden's past history of being against homosexuality/transgenderism, thus attempting to show that he, Donald Trump, is the best thing to happen to the LGBT movement since NAMBLA?

Are you suggesting that a presidential candidate is guilty of homosexual perversion if one of his vocal supporters advocates acceptance of homosexuality?

I'm not sure where you got the impression that because your favorite rainbow flag waving President endorses homosexuality and transgenderism, that somehow he engages in those acts as well. BUT....trannie Walter "Jenna" Talackova, the male pretending to be a female who Trump allowed to compete in the Miss Universe Pageant over the objection of the pageant board, does look an awful like Ivanka, the daughter Donald Trump dreams of having sex with, so anything is possible.

If so, can you even name a single democrat who does not support sodomy according to that standard?

Again, I ask you the question why are your Republican rainbow flag wavers so much better than Democrats? That rainbow flag what your boy Donald Trump is proudly waving in my avatar represents perversion and death no matter what Party embraces it.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Is Joe Biden one of the wicked?

It depends on a person's ideology. If they're a libertarian (i.e. "What two consenting people, a walrus and a turtle do in private...") then no..

Do you know anything about libertarianism?