Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

[TracerBullet]

You know, the one that the boogeyman that hides under every homosexuals bed (Paul Cameron) and I made up two weeks ago last Saturday.

I doubt it was Paul Cameron who penned it and the date of it's first appearance was 1991

On a side note: I've been meaning to ask you but keep forgetting to do so:

What do you believe causes homosexual desires Traci?

answering that would involve presenting actual facts and research and you just ignore things like that

I addressed this topic with your fellow homosexualist WizardofOz in part 2 (Aaron, please come home, we miss you so) :

Ezekiel 16:49-50 declares, "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me..." The Hebrew word translated "detestable" refers to something that is morally disgusting and is the exact same word used in Leviticus 18:22 that refers to homosexuality as an "abomination." Similarly, Jude 7 declares, "...Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion." So, again, while homosexuality was not the only sin in which the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah indulged, it does appear to be the primary reason for the destruction of the cities.

[/QUOTE]

Detestable things - shiqquts; sheqets; shiqqutsim - a term always applied to idol-worship or to objects connected with idolatry

 

[Nazaroo]

He's not on my side,
as I believe in helping the morally confused,
not murdering them.


http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4006591&postcount=1442

Two important points:

(1) The rich queers who run the government are not 'morally confused':

they are hardcore committed professional criminals who are
conscious members of the largest criminal gang in the world.

(2) Killing murderers is not murder. Ask any cop-sniper who has taken out
a crazy hostage taker holding an innocent child or housewife.


-----------------------------------------

You correctly quoted me.

And yet my clear statement convinced you that "He's not on my side".

You've certainly convinced me that you have sold out to the real criminals,
and you are unable to admit that law enforcement was lost to them
about 40 years ago.

I remember the very day it happened in Toronto, in the 1970s.

(1) First, the REAL police attempted repeatedly to close down "The Barracks",
a private sodomy club at John St and Richmond St, Toronto,
where lawyers buggered each other and molested teenage boys.

(2) Then the lawyers got together and struck down the 'obscenity' laws
in the Canadian criminal code, struck down the 'indecency' laws,
and struck down the 'sodomy' laws.

(3) Then these queer lawyers snubbed their noses at the REAL police, who had tried
to put the criminals in jail, and mocked them openly on TV, in newspapers,
and in public.

(4) Finally, Dr. Morgentaller the Abortionist opened an Abortion Clinic
in downtown Toronto, and started performing free abortions on demand.

(5) A REAL Christian cop refused to "guard" the Abortion Clinic,
on principle that is was a murder zone.

(6) The last courageous cop was publicly fired and humiliated by the government of Canada,
now taken over completely by queers.

(7) The REAL cops started cashing out their pensions and early retirements
in droves, it was the greatest scandal in the history of Canadian Law Enforcement.

(8) The government instituted a "hire only queers" for cops policy,
until they saturated the Toronto Police Force with homosexuals and lesbians.

(9) The last remaining REAL cops either retired or quit.


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This is how I know you probably are a paid cop on an active force.

(1) The real cops quit 40 years ago.

(2) You Self-Identify as my enemy.

 

[Nazaroo]

:thumb: :cigar: Good posting, brother -

(Just so long as you are not another side of aCW himself :think: )

Unlike aCW, I'm willing to apply the Torah in its entirety
to everyone equally, rather than single out one flavour of evildoer.

And unlike aCW, I don't believe in condemning anyone
without an honest and fair trial, carried out according to
the Law of God, including the Law of Two Witnesses,
and the Law of Eye for an Eye for False Witnesses.

Just like Town Heretic, I believe in the following essential principles of Law:

(1) Presumption of Innocence

(2) Due process

(3) Reasonable Doubt

(4) The requirement of evidence of motive and intent

(5) The release of those for whom insufficient evidence of crime exists.

(6) Appropriate penalties for appropriate crimes and circumstances.

(7) Due consideration for circumstances, education and intellect,
mitigating circumstances, and provocations by third parties and conditions.

(8) Impartiality regarding rich or poor, race, religion or creed, gender,
handicap, or other circumstance for which a person has no control of,
and no ability or power to change.

(9) Due consideration of natural and reasonable rights and priviledges,
and responsibilities, including rights of privacy, rights to self-improvement
and education, rights to self-defence, and self-determination,
responsibilities to relatives, parents, children, neighbours and community.

(10) Recognition that the basis of all universal and fundamental Law
is found in the Ten Commandments given by God to Moses.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Sadly aCW I see that I still can't drag you away from your red herrings and misdirection. Even in the scenario I created where arguably responsible people could have consensual safe sex together and the innocent, diseased and the under age were not involved or molested, and yes it really does happen. You still can't resist poisoning the well.

Perhaps it's because you don't actually have a rational answer to my question say for reasonable and responsible people, gay or straight, who can and do have a healthy sex life without all your snide presuppositions and optional extras.

You're not being very courteous and are downright insulting by not answering my questions Al (aCultureWarrior wipes a tear from the corner of his eye).

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4013054&postcount=1559

Let me answer them for you:

Except for adding your own little perverted twist by attempting to normalize homosexuality, you're a product of Judeo-Christianized western civilization.

You used the number "two" because God spoke about it in Genesis 2:24:

That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

The monogamous relationship that you spoke of comes from The Ten Commandments and Exodus 20:14 :

You shall not commit adultery.

The "people" comment came from Leviticus 20:15–16 and Exodus 22:19:

Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must certainly be put to death.

"Private chambers": The sanctity of a marital relationship.

Genesis 2:25

Now the man and his wife were both naked, but they felt no shame.

So I narrowed it down for you Al:

All that you have to do is explain why "consent" should be the new moral code, why children should or shouldn't be allowed to participate in sexual acts, and show that homosexual relationships are not inherently risky when it comes to health.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Welcome back Naz.

I pointed out in this thread that homosexual organizations are supporting the strong armed robber/attempted cop killer (Saint) Michael Brown.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4012019&postcount=1524

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4010745&postcount=1500

If you would be so kind as to confine your cop hating rant to this subject and only this subject, then I'd be very interested in what you have to say.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

On a side note: I've been meaning to ask you but keep forgetting to do so:

What do you believe causes homosexual desires Traci?

answering that would involve presenting actual facts and research and you just ignore things like that

Even your sodomite movement has acknowledged that there is no homosexual gene, so please tell us what causes homosexual desires.

 

[Nazaroo]

Welcome back Naz.

I pointed out in this thread that homosexual organizations are supporting the strong armed robber/attempted cop killer (Saint) Michael Brown.

If you would be so kind as to confine your cop hating rant to this subject and only this subject, then I'd be very interested in what you have to say.

I'll be happy to speak on this subject.

(1) The video is interesting, but far more important is the fact that
the robber and the corpse had exactly the same clothing, including hat.
And it seems the 'friend/witness' is in the video too with the same clothes.

(2) This doesn't mean the cop had even started looking for the robbers,
or knew about the robbery.
There is probably some truth to claim that the cop leaned out the car
window and told simply them to "get off the ***** street!"

(3) Where the 'friend's story breaks down badly is this:

(a) Its implausible that any cop, no matter how lazy,
would attempt to arrest anyone by pulling them into the cop car
from the driver's seat. This is completely absurd.

(b) It is far more plausible that someone already hopped up
and in an arrogant and over-confident mood (read teenager),
and who is used to intimidating other people (read 6' 4" negro),
and who doesn't think ahead very much about consequences (read teenager),
would refuse to get off the road, and instead,
upon seeing the cop stop his car,
and begin to get out, hold the door shut, reach in and start punching.

(c) Its equally plausible that the officer, however arrogant,
would quickly realise his predicament and attempt to pull his gun,
before even being able to get out of the car.

(d) Its plausible that the officer was reasonably successful in
shooting the complete fool a few times, forcing him to change tactics
and start running away (read teenage total idiot),

(e) And finally its plausible that the officer, feeling justified in
stopping a 6' 4" gorilla from attempting any further bodily harm,
would empty his Glock of all rounds, however unwise that might be.

(f) Its naturally also plausible that the teen's mom is going through
total anguish that her 'little boy' who wouldn't hurt a flea,
was shot in what has the appearance of excessive force.

(g) Its also plausible that very few geniuses are putting themselves
in the place of the cop, facing a violent and arrogant 6' 4" fool,
and so finding any sympathy for the cop.

(h) Was the cop justified in shooting the delinquent? Probably.

Does anyone who mouths off to a cop deserve to be shot? Probably not.

But guess what: A fool who climbs into a polar-bear cage
doesn't deserve to die either, but he probably will.

(4) Whether the cop knew about the robbery is irrelevant.

Don't lip off to people with guns.

(5) Whether the idiot was the 'robber' in the video is irrelevant.

Maybe that shopkeeper just told the two negro teens to get out of the store,
and maybe buddy just out of anger or for spite grabbed a box of cigars
first before leaving, and maybe it wasn't exactly even a robbery,
so much as a gathering of idiots, in the first place.

But we can be sure that every shopkeeper in that situation is
going to phone it in as a robbery anyway, and deny any part in
causing the fracas.

But who cares? If someone asks you to leave their store, leave.
Don't patronize a place that you're not welcome in.
Buy your underage cigarettes somewhere else, where the shopkeeper
is less racist and more greedy.

So who's their own worst enemy? The idiot who got shot.

(6) Do the neighbourhood ethnic groups have a right to riot and
loot and burn stores everytime some racist cop shoots an ethnic minority? NO.

(7) Should the rioters and looters who took opportunity and advantage
be punished for looting and destruction of property? YES.

And not jail. Work-farms and work crews.

(8) Should the cowards throwing firebombs and rocks and bottles and
shooting guns at the state troopers and hiding in the crowd of angry
citizens be arrested? Yes.

(9) Would I be surprised if a bunch of guys in the army, having caught
someone firing at them, hauled him into an armoured truck and stomped
him to death, then charged the corpse with 'resisting arrest'? No.

Again a simple rule applies. Being criminally stupid has consequences.

Don't be tragically stupid.

Case closed.

(10) Do I support the police? No.

 

[alwight]

You're not being very courteous and are downright insulting by not answering my questions Al (aCultureWarrior wipes a tear from the corner of his eye).

Very droll aCW, however I did ask my question first, but rest assured you didn't surprise me, emotionally or otherwise, by being less than responsive to it.

Let me answer them for you:

:jump:

Except for adding your own little perverted twist by attempting to normalize homosexuality, you're a product of Judeo-Christianized western civilization.

But the whole point was that I wanted you to explain what specifically was so wrong about gay sex in the context of my scenario, not in your more usual scenario of disease ridden gutter trawled offerings fuelled by blatant homophobic bigotry!

You used the number "two" because God spoke about it in Genesis 2:24:

That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

The monogamous relationship that you spoke of comes from The Ten Commandments and Exodus 20:14 :

Sorry aCW I seem to have little or no interest in your ancient Hebrew mythology in this regard today. Unlike you I don't hide behind, use nor adhere to any ancient scripture. Rightly or wrongly I prefer to work things out for myself from as many sources as possible.

So I narrowed it down for you Al:

All that you have to do is explain why "consent" should be the new moral code, why children should or shouldn't be allowed to participate in sexual acts, and show that homosexual relationships are not inherently risky when it comes to health.

Children shouldn't be allowed to be involved with many things until they reach a level of maturity, that's what parents are supposed to be there for imo. If that didn't happen for you then that's too bad, because surely something didn't happen for you.

Not so here in the UK at least since HIV has infected more people by heterosexual sex:

The statistics reveal more people living with HIV were infected through heterosexual sex than any other exposure route, though sex between men is a close second. - See more at: http://www.nat.org.uk/HIV-Facts/Sta...ople-with-HIV-in-UK.aspx#sthash.rjLd22ib.dpuf

http://www.nat.org.uk/HIV-Facts/Statistics/Latest-UK-statistics/People-with-HIV-in-UK.aspx

 

[GFR7]

Unlike aCW, I'm willing to apply the Torah in its entirety
to everyone equally, rather than single out one flavour of evildoer.

And unlike aCW, I don't believe in condemning anyone
without an honest and fair trial, carried out according to
the Law of God, including the Law of Two Witnesses,
and the Law of Eye for an Eye for False Witnesses.

Just like Town Heretic, I believe in the following essential principles of Law:

(1) Presumption of Innocence

(2) Due process

(3) Reasonable Doubt

(4) The requirement of evidence of motive and intent

(5) The release of those for whom insufficient evidence of crime exists.

(6) Appropriate penalties for appropriate crimes and circumstances.

(7) Due consideration for circumstances, education and intellect,
mitigating circumstances, and provocations by third parties and conditions.

(8) Impartiality regarding rich or poor, race, religion or creed, gender,
handicap, or other circumstance for which a person has no control of,
and no ability or power to change.

(9) Due consideration of natural and reasonable rights and priviledges,
and responsibilities, including rights of privacy, rights to self-improvement
and education, rights to self-defence, and self-determination,
responsibilities to relatives, parents, children, neighbours and community.

(10) Recognition that the basis of all universal and fundamental Law
is found in the Ten Commandments given by God to Moses.

I believe in all of these as well. They form the bedrock of a sane and moral society, and of useful law enforcement.

In the U.S., this has all been turned on its head now, though.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

(10) Do I support the police? No.

Was it the time a police officer took a bag of dope away from you as a teenager or that time as an adult where you were ticketed for driving 30 in a 25 MPH zone that gave you such an intense HATRED of law enforcement Naz?

Perhaps at your next visit to the psychiatrists couch you can discuss that with him or her.

That being said: I covered in part 1 how law enforcement is recruiting homosexuals into their ranks and how they're allowing officers in uniform (many of them high ranking officials) to march in 'pride parades' where sexual deviants perform depraved acts with immunity, so you're preaching to the choir if you think that I'm not aware of what's going on in law enforcement.

I also see that you didn't comment on how major homosexual organizations are supporting two bit thug (Saint) Michael Brown.

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4010745&postcount=1500

Care to comment?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Now that we've confirmed that alwight the atheist borrows many of his morals from "ancient Hebrew mythology", let's see how he feels about kiddy sex and diseases that naturally come with homosex:

Children shouldn't be allowed to be involved with many things until they reach a level of maturity, that's what parents are supposed to be there for imo. If that didn't happen for you then that's too bad, because surely something didn't happen for you.

Is 13 a mature enough age to contract a deadly incurable sexually transmitted disease Al?

Regarding disease:

Not so here in the UK at least since HIV has infected more people by heterosexual sex:

I heard that God made the human body differently for those that live in the UK.

That being said: That's great news for you Al, you can go out and be a 'real homosexual' once again (not someone who just defends it on a Christian conservative website).

Perhaps you should read this article first:

In 2012, an estimated 40,900 MSM were living with HIV in the UK, with only 17 percent of this number aware of their status. HIV prevalence among MSM is of increasing concern in the UK. 51 percent of all new HIV diagnoses in the UK were among MSM, a 10 percent increase on 2011, and the highest number ever reported in the country. 27 In Scotland, sex between men has accounted for 71 percent of all new HIV diagnoses since 2004. 28 34 percent of newly diagnosed MSM in the UK in 2012 were diagnosed late, compromising the benefits of starting treatment early. 29There is a great need for consistent testing at least once a year, and every 3 months if having unprotected sex with new partners among this group. 30Drug use among MSM in the UK is also on the rise, particularly in London. This is another potential HIV transmission route within an already vulnerable population. 31
http://www.avert.org/hiv-aids-uk.htm

 

[GFR7]

As per Michael Brown, have we reached a point where two-bit thugs are now liable for death without due process? Very unAmerican attitude and fits in well with Jihad.

And if aCW is going to conjure up stories about why many of us have feelings about police, gays, etc., then perhaps those can apply to him as well:

How do we know you weren't rejected by a gay man and that's what began your campaign? What's good for the goose is as well for the gander. . .

 

[TracerBullet]

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Even your sodomite movement has acknowledged that there is no homosexual gene, so please tell us what causes homosexual desires.

see what I mean. you ignore facts and research

 

[alwight]

Is 13 a mature enough age to contract a deadly incurable sexually transmitted disease Al?

What age were you when you contracted homophobic bigotry aCW?

I heard that God made the human body differently for those that live in the UK.

That's probably very consistent with most of your misinformation then.

That being said: That's great news for you Al, you can go out and be a 'real homosexual' once again (not someone who just defends it on a Christian conservative website).

As usual you have it backwards aCW, I may choose to attack homophobic bigotry but homosexuals don't need me to defend them.

Perhaps you should read this article first:

In 2012, an estimated 40,900 MSM were living with HIV in the UK, with only 17 percent of this number aware of their status. HIV prevalence among MSM is of increasing concern in the UK. 51 percent of all new HIV diagnoses in the UK were among MSM, a 10 percent increase on 2011, and the highest number ever reported in the country. 27 In Scotland, sex between men has accounted for 71 percent of all new HIV diagnoses since 2004. 28 34 percent of newly diagnosed MSM in the UK in 2012 were diagnosed late, compromising the benefits of starting treatment early. 29There is a great need for consistent testing at least once a year, and every 3 months if having unprotected sex with new partners among this group. 30Drug use among MSM in the UK is also on the rise, particularly in London. This is another potential HIV transmission route within an already vulnerable population. 31
http://www.avert.org/hiv-aids-uk.htm

I suspect it would be a sad day for you if currently irresponsible gay people only had safe sex, all you'd have for a drum to beat would be your ancient Hebrew scripture.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

As per Michael Brown, have we reached a point where two-bit thugs are now liable for death without due process? Very unAmerican attitude and fits in well with Jihad.

There is no "due process of law"
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Due+Process+of+Law

when a police officer or any citizen is defending his life from what they (or any common sense thinking person) believe is a threat of imminent death.

Are you not aware of that?

 

[GFR7]

There is no "due process of law"
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Due+Process+of+Law

when a police officer or any citizen is defending his life from what they (or any common sense thinking person) believe is a threat of imminent death.

Are you not aware of that?

No, I thought even as the bullet flew he was owed due process. :jawdrop:

How are we certain that the officer could reasonably believe there was imminent threat of death?

A private autopsy requested by Brown’s family shows that Brown was shot at least six times. Brown suffered a fatal shot that entered the top of his skull. Four shots also hit his right arm, which is consistent with eyewitness testimony claiming Brown put his arms in the air and said, “I don’t have a gun. Stop shooting!”

The family’s attorney, Daryl Parks, has contended that, given these facts, “This officer should have been arrested.”

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/20...brown-to-help-restore-peace-to-the-community/

In fairness to the officer in question, I feel sorry for him, too:

The Ferguson police officer who has gone into hiding after being named as the cop who shot Michael Brown is not a "cold-blood murderer" as depicted by his harshest critics, but a man without a temper who is "struggling" with the aftermath of the shooting, his friend told ABC News.

Police Officer Darren Wilson, 28, has been on leave since the Aug. 9 shooting of the unarmed teenager. His boss, Police Chief Tom Jackson, initially refused to release Wilson's name out of fears for his safety, but finally identified him late last week.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-c...-struggling-shooting-friend/story?id=25036752

 

[Nazaroo]

Was it the time a police officer took a bag of dope away from you
as a teenager or that time as an adult where you were ticketed
for driving 30 in a 25 MPH zone that gave you
such an intense HATRED of law enforcement Naz?

As a Nazarite, who is against all recreational use of drugs,
I would be enforcing the Torah.

That means you'd be fired and jailed for your recreational abuse of
alcohol, which is an industrial solvent and a poison.

What you are doing with alcohol is exactly equivalent to
what teenagers do while huffing glue.

You'd be stripped of your badge and found rightfully unfit for service.

Later, after you've dried out from drug abuse in jail,
you'd be trained there for a job awaiting you as a garbage man.

A real, legitimate job as law enforcement for God's kingdom,
would require a HOLY person:
Under the Torah, thats a lifetime Nazarite Vow.

You are wholly unfit for service to enforce God's law,
and unsurprisingly you are perfectly fit for service as a two-bit hoodlum
in the New World Order.

That being said:
I covered in part 1 how law enforcement is recruiting homosexuals
into their ranks and how they're allowing officers in uniform
(many of them high ranking officials) to march in 'pride parades'
where sexual deviants perform depraved acts with immunity,
so you're preaching to the choir if you think that
I'm not aware of what's going on in law enforcement.

That being said:
Why are you still a police officer?

Are you too ashamed to admit you have finally figured out
that you have unwittingly and naively joined the biggest
criminal organization in North America?

Perks too much to pass up?

I have to admit carrying a gun
and being able to bully and belittle all other citizens
is a huge temptation to an ***hole so I can understand
why you haven't the moral backbone to put down the badge.

I also see that you didn't comment on how major homosexual
organizations are supporting two bit thug (Saint) Michael Brown.

Care to comment?

What is to comment on?

Are you surprised that open gangs of pedophile thugs
are showing their loyalty and support to secret pedophile gangs
at the very top of the pyramid?

Don't drop the soap in the police locker room.

You might find out why every cop is issued a nightstick.

One of the perks of your job as enforcer for the uber-rich homo murderers.

I also see you didn't comment on this:

(1) The rich queers who run the government are not 'morally confused': they are hardcore committed professional criminals who are conscious members of the largest criminal gang in the world. ... (9) The last remaining REAL cops either retired or quit.

Care to comment?

 

[Nazaroo]

As per Michael Brown, have we reached a point where two-bit thugs
are now liable for death without due process?
Very unAmerican attitude and fits in well with Jihad.

two-bit thugs are indeed liable for death without due process.

This sums up life on planet earth. Welcome.

I would prefer due process, and appropriate punishment
which is proportional to crimes committed and restitution,
compensation and restoration into the community.

But even God doesn't promise anyone that.

Here are some VERY IMPORTANT EXAMPLES:

(1) God said to Adam, "Get out of the garden, twit, and eat bread by the sweat of your brow."

This was not the correct sentence, which was immediate death.
God was merciful, and also, God had a plan and agenda which
was not going to be thwarted by Adam, Eve, or a talking serpent.

(2) God said to Cain, "Wander the earth as a vagabond.
And wear this tattoo on your forehead so no one kills you,
on pain of something worse!"

This was not the correct sentence, and in fact may have been somewhat
harsher than a simple execution for murder. But God had an agenda,
which was not going to be thwarted by a hot-tempered idiot.

(3) God said to Moses: "Stone that fool carrying sticks on the sabbath."
The message was clear. It isn't about carrying sticks. Its about the
consequences of disobeying God, and failing to take Him seriously.

(4) Jesus said to His Apostles: "Have I not chosen you, and one of you is a Diobolos?"
Jesus had a plan, and that meant using an utterly worthless fool
to further an agenda, which most people would agree seems like an
assisted 'suicide by cop'.

(5) The Holy Spirit said to Ananias and Saphira, "Really?!
You think you can lie to my face? You're dead. Next, please. ..."

Let these words sink deep into your ears.

Many of God's judgements seem inappropriate to the perceived 'crime',
whether they are too harsh or too merciful.

What makes them righteous is the context and circumstances,
including God's plan and agenda,
which only God knows in completeness.

We are not here to judge God, but to fear God,
and obey God, and recognize our own place in the universe under God.

And if aCW is going to conjure up stories about why many of us have feelings about police, gays, etc., then perhaps those can apply to him as well:

How do we know you weren't rejected by a gay man and that's what began your campaign? What's good for the goose is as well for the gander. . .

Don't waste your time:

God knows his real sins, and we don't WANT to know them.

That might include the dozens of innocent people he's jailed,
and the fact his hand is in his pants right now,
as he watches porn he confiscated from some 'confused person'.

 

[GFR7]

two-bit thugs are indeed liable for death without due process.

This sums up life on planet earth. Welcome.

I would prefer due process, and appropriate punishment
which is proportional to crimes committed and restitution,
compensation and restoration into the community.

But even God doesn't promise anyone that.

Here are some VERY IMPORTANT EXAMPLES:

(1) God said to Adam, "Get out of the garden, twit, and eat bread by the sweat of your brow."

This was not the correct sentence, which was immediate death.
God was merciful, and also, God had a plan and agenda which
was not going to be thwarted by Adam, Eve, or a talking serpent.

(2) God said to Cain, "Wander the earth as a vagabond.
And wear this tattoo on your forehead so no one kills you,
on pain of something worse!"

This was not the correct sentence, and in fact may have been somewhat
harsher than a simple execution for murder. But God had an agenda,
which was not going to be thwarted by a hot-tempered idiot.

(3) God said to Moses: "Stone that fool carrying sticks on the sabbath."
The message was clear. It isn't about carrying sticks. Its about the
consequences of disobeying God, and failing to take Him seriously.

(4) Jesus said to His Apostles: "Have I not chosen you, and one of you is a Diobolos?"
Jesus had a plan, and that meant using an utterly worthless fool
to further an agenda, which most people would agree seems like an
assisted 'suicide by cop'.

(5) The Holy Spirit said to Ananias and Saphira, "Really?!
You think you can lie to my face? You're dead. Next, please. ..."

Let these words sink deep into your ears.

Many of God's judgements seem inappropriate to the perceived 'crime',
whether they are too harsh or too merciful.

What makes them righteous is the context and circumstances,
including God's plan and agenda,
which only God knows in completeness.

We are not here to judge God, but to fear God,
and obey God, and recognize our own place in the universe under God.


Don't waste your time:

God knows his real sins, and we don't WANT to know them.

That might include the dozens of innocent people he's jailed,
and the fact his hand is in his pants right now,
as he watches porn he confiscated from some 'confused person'.

Good examples, and all understood. But our justice should be more modest and practical and not misappropriated due to race or class.

Yes, I am sure even aCW will be found out in the end.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
There is no "due process of law"
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...Process+of+Law

when a police officer or any citizen is defending his life from what they (or any common sense thinking person) believe is a threat of imminent death.

Are you not aware of that?

No, I thought even as the bullet flew he was owed due process. :jawdrop:

Obviously you still don't understand that it's impossible for a police officer to give a person due process of the law when he's defending his life.

Other than the typical public restroom arrests that is a big part of the homosexual culture, have you had any experience with anyone in law enforcement?

How are we certain that the officer could reasonably believe there was imminent threat of death?

The "eyewitness" (Dorian Johnson) was a co-perpetrator in the strong armed robbery that (Saint) Michael Brown committed minutes before being shot. Hardly a reputable eye witness.

In fairness to the officer in question, I feel sorry for him, too:

Enough with your patronizing comments, they're sickening.