shagster01
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ACW can you honestly say it would be better to have 10's of millions more people in this country? Do you think that would make things better or worse?
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ACW can you honestly say it would be better to have 10's of millions more people in this country? Do you think that would make things better or worse?
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alwight
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If you add in all the "pre-born children" that naturally abort then that must be like the population of the whole world many times over.Because we've seen how successful evangelism alone has been for 57 million unborn babies in the past 41 years.
It's really quite pathetic to see how secular humanists have no problem using legislation to promote evil, yet Christians for some odd reason don't want to use it to promote good (but then homosexuality is a 'special's sin for many Christians, since a family member or a close friend partakes in that behavior).
Please come forward Grossie and tell the readers of this thread what goes through the mind of a Christian that doesn't want to use one of God's ministers (as seen in Romans 13:4) to help those that are wasting their and others lives away by engaging in homosexual behavior.
Then if you add in all those that were prevented through contraception then we'd all be righteous perhaps as we all slowly starve to death, if disease hadn't got us all already.
alwight
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Tell me aCW, for a homosexual then why exactly isn't homosexuality acceptable behaviour?
I presume it's because you think that homosexuality is an evil, chosen way of life, even if they themselves claim otherwise?
They are simply liars performing acts that they don't enjoy just because...? :idunno:
Why else would you constantly blame all homosexuals for the deeds of only a few (child abuse) while ignoring the same deeds when done by some heterosexuals?
It seems to me aCW that by far most gay people typically only want to be accepted as human beings for what they are, they don't seek to indoctrinate, molest or convert children, there is no "collective" that's just a pathetic lie you try to peddle.
The fact that some people just are gay is their only message.
But for the likes of you aCW, that isn't acceptable of course, which is probably why there are gay activists instead of just gay people.
Well said aCW, perhaps God heard you, definite brownie points there imo.
Personally however I think the reason we usually keep them covered is probably because there are better human features to witness than the waste disposal unit areas, even if you do like to keep yours special for your spouse.
Lon
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It would take awhile to discuss this, but there is a connection between moral degeneration and death. When you devalue humanity, the result is man is disposable.
Just to set the record straight, I wasn't posting the abortion statistics in an attempt to start a debate over abortion, but to ask those who believe that preaching the gospel by itself how that's worked with the murder of 57 million unborn babies in the past 41 years. I'll keep PM'ing Grossie hoping that he'll get the courage up to return to the thread and comment.
On that note: there is plenty of room for 57 million more babies in this country, let me explain why.
In a country that embraces Biblical doctrine the economy would be great. Our Biblical based free enterprise system was the marvel of the world at one time; people from all over the world often times left everything behind to come to America to live the "American Dream" (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness). Once we return to a country that embraces strong social values, the economy will be strong once again as well.
Besides, there would be plenty of room after 20 million illegal aliens were deported; after America hating Muslims were deported; after homosexuals that were given "political asylum" from non pervert friendly countries were deported; and yes, there would be plenty of room for those unborn babies after Libertarians like you and Jr. were deported to somewhere that you'd feel right at home: Sweden.
http://rt.com/news/child-porn-in-open-access-at-swedish-national-library/
Out of curiousity Al, do you have a minor case of "Al'sheimers", because we'd discussed pretty much all of the above ad nauseum in the two previous threads.
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Which one has caused more unnecessary death and war, religion or nudity?
The things drug addicts think about while they're sitting around vaporizing dope.
Here, let me answer the question in simplistic terms so that even a Libertarian with an IQ of 5 can understand it:
I suppose you could say that nudity is connected with billions of births over time, but also millions and millions of deaths through abortion and homosexuality. I would have to say that religion far outweighs those numbers though. Yes, the religions of atheism and secular humanism has a body count of over 200 million people since 1917 alone.
Originally Posted by shagster01
Which one has caused more unnecessary death and war, religion or nudity?
The things drug addicts think about while they're sitting around vaporizing dope.
Here, let me answer the question in simplistic terms so that even a Libertarian with an IQ of 5 can understand it:
I suppose you could say that nudity is connected with billions of births over time, but also millions and millions of deaths through abortion and homosexuality. I would have to say that religion far outweighs those numbers though. Yes, the religions of atheism and secular humanism has a body count of over 200 million people since 1917 alone.
Christian Liberty
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The other stuff aside, I definitely believe that if our economy were run in a free market manner our country could sustain more people. Even if not, abortion is still murder.
As for the gospel and abortion, here's the bottom line, it will never be the case that a majority of people will believe the gospel. But we do know that America was most free and prosperous when the gospel of free and sovereign grace was accepted by large numbers of people. If anyone hasn't seen Kirk Cameron's Monumental movie, you should. That movie basically explains what I'm talking about.
As for the gospel and abortion, here's the bottom line, it will never be the case that a majority of people will believe the gospel. But we do know that America was most free and prosperous when the gospel of free and sovereign grace was accepted by large numbers of people. If anyone hasn't seen Kirk Cameron's Monumental movie, you should. That movie basically explains what I'm talking about.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3938971&postcount=308
How is it working for your "grace alone" preachers when it comes to the murder of 57 million unborn babies in the past 41 years? From what I've seen the problem hasn't "solved itself".
That's why God ordained man to legislate laws: there will always be those that don't believe in God's Word.
Dear aCW,
Leave me out of your deductions. You are way off. I copied this part of your post instead of the whole thing, because it is so long. I think you should worry less about Mikey Cadry and more about yourself. You're the one with the complex. And I'm not much into parades, no matter what kind they are. I get tired of hearing band after band music. I don't like the way gays are displayed at parades. They are too flamboyant and feminine for my taste, if you want to know the truth. But I don't worry about it. I still don't harp on the same subject for years upon years, except it be Jesus Returning for us. In case you didn't figure it out by now, I am no longer of the gay persuasion. I've had my share of girlfriends in my life and I've been told by them that I am a great French kisser!! It's my life, it's my business, and it's my desire for you to stay out of it. You make false claims about me, and I don't like it.
Michael
I think it stands to reason aCW that statistically there are far more perverted heterosexuals than homosexuals, whatever one's definition of a pervert is, and that most of them don't go to gay pride parades or have much cause to associate with gay activists.
Leave me out of your deductions. You are way off. I copied this part of your post instead of the whole thing, because it is so long. I think you should worry less about Mikey Cadry and more about yourself. You're the one with the complex. And I'm not much into parades, no matter what kind they are. I get tired of hearing band after band music. I don't like the way gays are displayed at parades. They are too flamboyant and feminine for my taste, if you want to know the truth. But I don't worry about it. I still don't harp on the same subject for years upon years, except it be Jesus Returning for us. In case you didn't figure it out by now, I am no longer of the gay persuasion. I've had my share of girlfriends in my life and I've been told by them that I am a great French kisser!! It's my life, it's my business, and it's my desire for you to stay out of it. You make false claims about me, and I don't like it.
Michael
I think it stands to reason aCW that statistically there are far more perverted heterosexuals than homosexuals, whatever one's definition of a pervert is, and that most of them don't go to gay pride parades or have much cause to associate with gay activists.
Is that a selfie aCW?
LOL...I hope that didn't offend you Judy, as I know how close you and Mikey Cadry are (I look nothing like Tom Brady).
alwight
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Yes very clever and ad nauseum is right but clearly you still don't have any reasonable answers aCW except now apparently in Christian fundies producing ever more children, whether wanted or not, and the forced exclusion of all others. Mindless Darwinian evolution in action perhaps?
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Out of curiousity Al, do you have a minor case of "Al'sheimers", because we'd discussed pretty much all of the above ad nauseum in the two previous threads.
I like that word Al: "reasonable". That being said: what is "reasonable" to one person might not be to another. What should we use as a standard for "reasonable" behavior?
Do you think this is "reasonable" Al? After all, "consenting adults" are involved.
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I have the right, as an adult of sound mind, to choose to imput any substance I want into my body, even heroin or meth. I also have the right to sell these substances to other consenting adults. And anyone who would prevent me from exercising this right, even if he acts "legally" and with a badge, is a violent criminal who I have the right to resist.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3940161&postcount=29
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Out of curiousity Al, do you have a minor case of "Al'sheimers", because we'd discussed pretty much all of the above ad nauseum in the two previous threads.
I like that word Al: "reasonable". That being said: what is "reasonable" to one person might not be to another. What should we use as a standard for "reasonable" behavior?
Do you think this is "reasonable" Al? After all, "consenting adults" are involved.
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I have the right, as an adult of sound mind, to choose to imput any substance I want into my body, even heroin or meth. I also have the right to sell these substances to other consenting adults. And anyone who would prevent me from exercising this right, even if he acts "legally" and with a badge, is a violent criminal who I have the right to resist.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3940161&postcount=29
alwight
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Pull the other one aCW, "reasonable" would be something someone who was somewhat tolerant of other people might say, not you. You only want to either criminalise or expel those who don't appeal to you.
Firstly I really don't know much of this Ron Paul person that you and CL seem to find so interesting.
Personally however and although it may indeed be heart-warming that someone like you thinks it's his mission in life to control what others do perhaps for their own good, I'd have to say thanks but no thanks, please butt out and mind your own business for a change.
lain:Christian Liberty
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I don't believe abortion should be legal. And I have no qualms about making abortion illegal.
Keep in mind, however, the very government who you are begging to solve our societal problems (not just this one) is actually FUNDING abortion. Even under the most pro-choice libertarian candidate's government, there would be less abortion than there is right now.
Does that mean you should vote for them? Not really. I don't go for "lesser of two evils", and I won't vote for a candidate unless they truly stand for most of my values. But, as far as it goes, Gary Johnson is actually more pro-life than Rick Santorum.
Do with that what you want.
Governments can rightly restrain violent acts of aggression that men would like to commit, including abortion. Government's role is not to restrain peaceful acts which Christians disapprove of, such as homosexuality. The solution to these things is to preach the gospel, which changes the minds and hearts of men.
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How is it working for your "grace alone" preachers when it comes to the murder of 57 million unborn babies in the past 41 years? From what I've seen the problem hasn't "solved itself".
That's why God ordained man to legislate laws: there will always be those that don't believe in God's Word.
As I had mentioned before: the sin of homosexuality has a special place in many a Christian's heart because they have a friend or a family member that partakes in the behavior and they don't want to come across as too "judgmental" by enforcing laws that will help these morally confused people.
Which brings me to Selwyn Duke's article once again:
WHY MANY AMERICAN CHRISTIANS ARE REALLY UN-CHRISTIAN
"Let us be blunt: It is simply not possible to espouse relativism — which holds that right and wrong are opinion — and be a true Christian.
Why? It’s simple: Jesus did not die for our opinions. Jesus did not say that His blood was the blood of the new and everlasting covenant and that it would be shed for you and for all so that opinions may be forgiven; He did not say, I am a way, a truth, and a life; He did not say, let he who is without opinion cast the first stone; He did not say to that dark tempter, “It is said, ‘Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God,’” but, hey, Satan, whatever works for you.
There are many doctrinal differences among the denominations, and good people could debate them ad nauseam and still not settle every one. Yet, if anything is central to Christianity, it’s the belief that Truth is spelled with a capital “T,” that it is absolute, universal and eternal."
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/duke/100301
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
How is it working for your "grace alone" preachers when it comes to the murder of 57 million unborn babies in the past 41 years? From what I've seen the problem hasn't "solved itself".
That's why God ordained man to legislate laws: there will always be those that don't believe in God's Word.
As I had mentioned before: the sin of homosexuality has a special place in many a Christian's heart because they have a friend or a family member that partakes in the behavior and they don't want to come across as too "judgmental" by enforcing laws that will help these morally confused people.
Which brings me to Selwyn Duke's article once again:
WHY MANY AMERICAN CHRISTIANS ARE REALLY UN-CHRISTIAN
"Let us be blunt: It is simply not possible to espouse relativism — which holds that right and wrong are opinion — and be a true Christian.
Why? It’s simple: Jesus did not die for our opinions. Jesus did not say that His blood was the blood of the new and everlasting covenant and that it would be shed for you and for all so that opinions may be forgiven; He did not say, I am a way, a truth, and a life; He did not say, let he who is without opinion cast the first stone; He did not say to that dark tempter, “It is said, ‘Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God,’” but, hey, Satan, whatever works for you.
There are many doctrinal differences among the denominations, and good people could debate them ad nauseam and still not settle every one. Yet, if anything is central to Christianity, it’s the belief that Truth is spelled with a capital “T,” that it is absolute, universal and eternal."
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/duke/100301
Yet you just stated a page ago:
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I don't really feel the need to fight the culture war. If we preach the gospel and people believe it that problem will solve itself. I see no real point in trying to convince non-Christians to accept Christian morals...
But but but Jr., by preaching the gospel, aren't you trying to get non-Christians to accept Christian morals?
What's it going to be Jr. : preach only the gospel to abortionists, homosexuals, pornographers and those who engage in incest, or legislate righteous laws in addition to missionary work?
While you're here:
(Psssst, Jr., I need to ask you a favor. My "connection" had a slight accident and I need a few ounces of meth or smack. Can you hook me up?)
http://hardnoxandfriends.com/2014/01/29/obamas-gay-pot-dealer-killed-for-flatulence/
Which reminds me: I haven't played any music in quite a while. How about a little Trini Lopez?
Back later with a response to "reasonable Al".
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