Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 3

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In a previous post where I linked numerous articles showing how Islam, like the homosexual movement, loves their little boys, I highlighted what the author of the article wrote about the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche:

"One of the reasons Nietzsche hated Christianity was that it "made something unclean out of sexuality", whereas Islam, many would argue, was sex-positive. One cannot imagine any of the Church fathers writing ecstatically of heavenly sex as al-Suyuti did, with the possible exception of St Augustine before his conversion."

72 Virgins and Boys
http://www.albatrus.org/english/religions/islam/72virgins_and_boys.htm

Since GayForReal7 seems to admire Nietzsche, (being that he uses a quote of his on his signature at the bottom of each post that he writes) I thought that we should learn more about ole Freddy boy.

From the homosexual website "glbtq: an encyclopedia of gay lesbian bisexual transgender and queer culture".

Nietzsche, Friedrich (1844-1900)

Friedrich Nietzsche is both one of the most influential and one of the most misunderstood of modern philosophers. Born into a sexually repressed family in the earlier nineteenth century, and plagued with ill health, much of Nietzche's work expresses a search for a primal joie de vivre that he felt had been squashed and distorted by the hypocritical religiosity and overbearing morality of his time.

Nietzsche himself fell victim to the same repressive forces. Although he had intimate and intense relationships with other men, he was never able to have an openly sexual relationship with either gender, and some historians believe he died in the mental torment of late-stage syphilis acquired from male prostitutes.

After his death, parts of his work were used by Nazis and other anti-Semites to reinforce their mythology of an Aryan super race. His writings unquestionably contain misogyny, racism, and anti-Jewish statements. However, Nietzsche's iconoclastic and individualistic ideas are too complex to fit comfortably within any ideology, and his influence extends far to the left as well as to the right.

Friedrich Nietzsche was born on October 15, 1844 in Roecken, Saxony. His father, Karl Ludwig Nietzsche, was a Lutheran minister who died from a painful brain disease when young Friedrich was only four.

Nietzsche was raised in a household of five women: his mother, sister, grandmother, and two aunts. However, it was not a warm home. His female relatives had a Prussian severity that caused them to be reserved with the young boy in their care.

When he was fourteen, Nietzsche received a scholarship to a boarding school called Schulpforta, near the town of Naumburg, where the family had moved after Karl Ludwig's death.

It was while studying at Schulpforta that Nietzsche experienced his first romantic relationship with a boy. He wrote poems about his love, and also discovered the poetry of such gay or bisexual literary figures as August von Platen and George Gordon, Lord Byron.

Nietzsche was a brilliant and creative student, and in 1864, he entered the university in Bonn to study theology and philology. At Bonn, he became a member of the Franconia fraternity, and may have had homoerotic relationships with other students. He also came under the influence of the philologist Friedrich Wilhelm Ritschl, who encouraged him to study classics.

A year later, Nietzsche followed Ritschl to the university in Leipzig, where he continued his studies. There he met and became intimate with another student, Erwin Rohde. He and Rohde shared a fascination with ancient Greek culture. At Leipzig, Nietzsche discovered the work of philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, whose atheistic view of the world greatly influenced him.

During the late 1860s, while teaching and writing in Basel, Nietzsche became involved with composer Richard Wagner. What started as a passionate infatuation for the composer's music and personality deteriorated into jealousy, intellectual argument, and bitterness. Nietzsche had become very close to fellow philosopher Paul Ree. Ree was Jewish, and the notorious anti-Semite Wagner snubbed him, further alienating Nietzsche. He withdrew his friendship with hostility, and Wagner spread rumors that hinted of Nietzsche's homosexuality.

The philosopher continued to teach, write, and travel, publishing Untimely Meditations (1873-76) and Human, All Too Human (1878-79), while making several visits to an area of Sicily that was home to a colony of expatriate homosexuals.


Read more: http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/nietzsche_f.html


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The things that we learn about our fellow TOL'ers simply by looking into their signature.

Moving on....
Right; I was really trying to hide this by putting it in my signature,
along with his name, right?
:chuckle:
But then, I did my Honors Thesis on Nietzsche's Geneology of Morals......
 
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BTW, aCW: Best to take what
gay/queer culture sites say with a grain of salt:

They've been trying to claim Lincoln and Nixon, and many others, as closeted gays. ;)
This has been their game for years.

In all my academic years of Nietzschean studies, I never read these particular "gay facts" about him.

1. There exists no evidence that N got syphillis from a male, and not a female, prostitute while in the army.

2. The queer site offers NO evidence that N "probably had homoerotic relationships with students" - why do they
think he "probably" did? They never say. :think:

3. Princeton Professor Walter Kaufmann has said Wagner told people that Nietzsche was after his wife.

4. We know he was in love with a society woman and intellectual of her time,
Lou Andreas Von Salome
(documented in his letters).

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After re-reading the article on Freddy Nietszche from the sodomite website (and we all know that sodomites don't lie), I found it interesting that like so many other cases I've documented throughout this 3 part thread, that Freddy came from a fatherless home and had what appeared to be an overbearing mother (and other female relatives that lived in the house).

Friedrich Nietzsche was born on October 15, 1844 in Roecken, Saxony. His father, Karl Ludwig Nietzsche, was a Lutheran minister who died from a painful brain disease when young Friedrich was only four.

Nietzsche was raised in a household of five women: his mother, sister, grandmother, and two aunts. However, it was not a warm home. His female relatives had a Prussian severity that caused them to be reserved with the young boy in their care.


(Who knows, maybe Freddy's grandfather kissed him on the lips like a man should kiss a woman and that had an adverse effect on his outlook on human sexuality).

Granted, the death of his father was not any fault of young Freddy (perhaps Dr. Naz could enlighten us how Karl Ludwig Nietzsche could have lived longer), but it points out once again why we as a society should strengthen the nuclear family by recriminalizing things like abortion, homosexuality, pornography, cohabitation and doing away with no-fault divorce.

What causes homosexual desire and can it be changed?
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3393262&postcount=17
 

GFR7

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After re-reading the article on Freddy Nietszche from the sodomite website (and we all know that sodomites don't lie), I found it interesting that like so many other cases I've documented throughout this 3 part thread, that Freddy came from a fatherless home and had what appeared to be an overbearing mother (and other female relatives that lived in the house).

Friedrich Nietzsche was born on October 15, 1844 in Roecken, Saxony. His father, Karl Ludwig Nietzsche, was a Lutheran minister who died from a painful brain disease when young Friedrich was only four.

Nietzsche was raised in a household of five women: his mother, sister, grandmother, and two aunts. However, it was not a warm home. His female relatives had a Prussian severity that caused them to be reserved with the young boy in their care.


(Who knows, maybe Freddy's grandfather kissed him on the lips like a man should kiss a woman and that had an adverse effect on his outlook on human sexuality).

Granted, the death of his father was not any fault of young Freddy (perhaps Dr. Naz could enlighten us how Karl Ludwig Nietzsche could have lived longer), but it points out once again why we as a society should strengthen the nuclear family by recriminalizing things like abortion, homosexuality, pornography, cohabitation and doing away with no-fault divorce.

What causes homosexual desire and can it be changed?
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3393262&postcount=17
I figured you would notice that, but I'm afraid you can't take a queer site's word for it, that he was gay. See my above post :AMR1:
Not everyone is a wasp from Kentucky; Italians , Latinos, and others have a tradition of kissing young boys on the lips.
and maybe the fact that this was taboo in Kentucky made you so suspicious that all men here are gay? :think:
 

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Before I move on and leave the subject of Friedrich Nietszche behind, I wanted to share this article by Russell Grigg entitled:

Nietzsche
The evolutionist who was anti-God and anti-Darwin


German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844–1900) is probably best known for his “God is dead” pronouncement. Not so well known is the fact that although he believed in evolution, he vehemently rejected the major principles of Darwinism.1

Nietzsche and the ‘death of God’
Nietzsche proclaimed the death of God in The Gay Science2 by a parable about a madman with a lantern, looking for God, only to have his fellow citizens ridicule it:

“The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. ‘Whither is God?’ he cried; ‘I will tell you. We have killed him—you and I. All of us are his murderers. … God is dead. … And we have killed him.’”3,4

Nietzsche then explained that what he meant was: “the belief in the Christian god has become unbelievable”.5 His motive appears to have been to counteract the concept of future judgment—by announcing the death of the Judge! He wrote: “We deny God; in denying God we deny accountability.”6

In place of God, Nietzsche put forward his Superhuman, (German Übermensch),7 an imaginary, super-strong, amoral individual, who would overcome all opposition, as well as the need for God—because in Nietzsche’s view, God was an illusion of the mind.

Nietzsche vs Genesis
In The Anti-Christ, Nietzsche unleashed a torrent of abuse at God and the Genesis account of creation:

“Has the famous story which stands at the beginning of the Bible really been understood—the story of God’s mortal terror of science? …

“God’s first blunder: man did not find the animals entertaining—he dominated them, he did not even want to be an ‘animal’.—Consequently God created woman. And then indeed there was an end to boredom but also to something else! Woman was God’s second blunder.—‘Woman is in her essence serpent, Heva—every priest knows that, every evil comes into the world through woman’ … .”8

Perhaps the kindest comment on this is to see it as the forerunner to the insanity of Nietzsche’s last 11 years...

Nietzsche, Darwin and Hitler
The supreme modern example of Nietzsche’s ‘Superhuman’, the strong man who lived by his own morality and vanquished all opposition, was Adolf Hitler. Hitler embraced both Darwinism and Nietzschean philosophy. For him, the Darwinian notion of the strong dominating the weak, was the highest good. At the same time, he considered himself to be the ‘superman’ of Nietzsche’s philosophy,16 and he also applied Nietzsche’s idea of superior individuals in seeking to persuade the German people that collectively they were the ‘master race’.

Hitler carried the ideas of Darwin and Nietzsche to a logical conclusion—an atheistic morality that resulted in the pillaging of Europe and the murder of over six million innocent civilians in the Holocaust.17

Conclusion
Nietzsche shook his fist at God, but Nietzsche is dead and God is not. So the last word belongs to God.


Read more:http://creation.com/nietzsche-anti-god-anti-darwin

Like so many homosexuals do, Friedrich Nietzsche obviously had a deep seated HATRED of God.
 

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I figured you would notice that, but I'm afraid you can't take a queer site's word for it, that he was gay. See my above post :AMR1:
Not everyone is a wasp from Kentucky; Italians , Latinos, and others have a tradition of kissing young boys on the lips.
and maybe the fact that this was taboo in Kentucky made you so suspicious that all men here are gay? :think:

Bringing the above post forward so I can add to it for Kentuckyian:

Scott Lively's and Kevin Abrams' Pink Swastika section on Nietzsche is Doo-Doo

Throughout The Pink Swastika, Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams claim there was a necessary relationship between homosexuality and the rise of Nazi Germany. They chronicle a long line of people who they claim influenced National Socialism and assert with great confidence that most of those figures were homosexuals. However, a closer examination of their claims and the record reveal that the authors’ confidence is most likely based on wishful thinking and confirmation bias. To illustrate, I am going to review information on several key figures. This post focuses on Friedrich Nietzsche.

But Nietzsche was no Nazi. He vigorously opposed German nationalism, as he rejected all mass movements; he had no time for ideologues, mocked the notion of a Teutonic master race and loathed anti-Semitism in all its forms.

Nietzsche was bitterly opposed to the racist project from the start, declaring he wanted “nothing whatever to do with this anti-Semitic undertaking… if it fails, I shall rejoice”. Elisabeth was “morally bloated”, he said, “a vengeful anti-Semitic goose”. In an angry letter he told his sister that all of Germany’s racists should be packed off to the Paraguayan jungle, where they could rot harmlessly away.
Without hint of the obvious problem for their thesis, Lively and Abrams admit that Nietzsche condemned anti-Semitism and nationalism. In passing, they note:

Had he lived in that era, Nietzsche might not have become a Nazi. His works include numerous condemnations of anti-Semitism and nationalism (and thus were selectively censored by Elizabeth). But the best measure of Nietzsche’s contribution and importance to Nazism is not in conjectures about what Nietzsche might have thought about Nazism, but in the actual reverence of the Nazis for him.

Nietzsche’s views about the ideas later embraced by the Nazis is not conjecture. Clearly, what the Nazis embraced was the edited version of his work packaged by his racist heterosexual sister. Nietzsche’s sexuality — whatever it might have been — cannot be held to have anything to do with the selective use of his philosophy by his sister and the Nazis. ...... When Nietzsche died, the man who had declared “God is dead” was buried in Röcken churchyard by his pious sister with full Lutheran rites.

Elisabeth avidly offered up her brother’s writings in support of militarism and Nazi world domination. Mussolini, she declared, was “the genius who rediscovered the values of the Nietzsche spirit…Nietzsche would have regarded him as the splendid disciple”. Nietzsche, I am certain, would have regarded Mussolini as a dangerous buffoon.

Reading The Pink Swastika, one would not get the big picture. A more apt summary of the situation might be this: A heterosexual couple misrepresented the writings of a man with unknown sexuality to promote racist and nationalist ideas the man abhorred.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warren...23/the-pink-swastika-and-friedrich-nietzsche/
 

GFR7

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Before I move on and leave the subject of Friedrich Nietszche behind, I wanted to share this article by Russell Grigg entitled:

Nietzsche
The evolutionist who was anti-God and anti-Darwin


German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche (1844–1900) is probably best known for his “God is dead” pronouncement. Not so well known is the fact that although he believed in evolution, he vehemently rejected the major principles of Darwinism.1

Nietzsche and the ‘death of God’
Nietzsche proclaimed the death of God in The Gay Science2 by a parable about a madman with a lantern, looking for God, only to have his fellow citizens ridicule it:

“The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. ‘Whither is God?’ he cried; ‘I will tell you. We have killed him—you and I. All of us are his murderers. … God is dead. … And we have killed him.’”3,4

Nietzsche then explained that what he meant was: “the belief in the Christian god has become unbelievable”.5 His motive appears to have been to counteract the concept of future judgment—by announcing the death of the Judge! He wrote: “We deny God; in denying God we deny accountability.”6

In place of God, Nietzsche put forward his Superhuman, (German Übermensch),7 an imaginary, super-strong, amoral individual, who would overcome all opposition, as well as the need for God—because in Nietzsche’s view, God was an illusion of the mind.

Nietzsche vs Genesis
In The Anti-Christ, Nietzsche unleashed a torrent of abuse at God and the Genesis account of creation:

“Has the famous story which stands at the beginning of the Bible really been understood—the story of God’s mortal terror of science? …

“God’s first blunder: man did not find the animals entertaining—he dominated them, he did not even want to be an ‘animal’.—Consequently God created woman. And then indeed there was an end to boredom but also to something else! Woman was God’s second blunder.—‘Woman is in her essence serpent, Heva—every priest knows that, every evil comes into the world through woman’ … .”8

Perhaps the kindest comment on this is to see it as the forerunner to the insanity of Nietzsche’s last 11 years...

Nietzsche, Darwin and Hitler
The supreme modern example of Nietzsche’s ‘Superhuman’, the strong man who lived by his own morality and vanquished all opposition, was Adolf Hitler. Hitler embraced both Darwinism and Nietzschean philosophy. For him, the Darwinian notion of the strong dominating the weak, was the highest good. At the same time, he considered himself to be the ‘superman’ of Nietzsche’s philosophy,16 and he also applied Nietzsche’s idea of superior individuals in seeking to persuade the German people that collectively they were the ‘master race’.

Hitler carried the ideas of Darwin and Nietzsche to a logical conclusion—an atheistic morality that resulted in the pillaging of Europe and the murder of over six million innocent civilians in the Holocaust.17

Conclusion
Nietzsche shook his fist at God, but Nietzsche is dead and God is not. So the last word belongs to God.


Read more:http://creation.com/nietzsche-anti-god-anti-darwin

Like so many homosexuals do, Friedrich Nietzsche obviously had a deep seated HATRED of God.

Can you get any dumber?
You completely ignore informed and educated comments
while you sit in Kentucky, doing your cut-and-paste.


Yes, yes I see....a CW is an idiot....

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GFR7

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You are no Nietzsche scholar; that much is clear.
And the articles you cite are one-sided and very much beside the point.
You have missed the point of his allegorical rhetoric, and you have
completely misunderstood his critique -
as I'm sure you do Kierkegaard's
(if you've ever heard of him, which is doubtful
:think: ) -
of false Christianity.
You also fail to understand the misuse the Nazis
made of him, as Christians do of Christ.
As usual, you add nothing to the discourse.
Stick to your simple recriminalization campaign ;)
Badly done, aCW.
:nono:

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aCW: You should try reading Nietzsche's Also Sprach Zarathustra
(Thus Spoke Zarathustra - (c 1883).

It has passages of unsurpassed suggestive beauty and illumination.


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Perhaps the kindest comment on this is to see it as the forerunner to the insanity of Nietzsche’s last 11 years...

Nietzsche, Darwin and Hitler
The supreme modern example of Nietzsche’s ‘Superhuman’, the strong man who lived by his own morality and vanquished all opposition, was Adolf Hitler. Hitler embraced both Darwinism and Nietzschean philosophy. For him, the Darwinian notion of the strong dominating the weak, was the highest good. At the same time, he considered himself to be the ‘superman’ of Nietzsche’s philosophy,16 and he also applied Nietzsche’s idea of superior individuals in seeking to persuade the German people that collectively they were the ‘master race’.

Hitler carried the ideas of Darwin and Nietzsche to a logical conclusion—an atheistic morality that resulted in the pillaging of Europe and the murder of over six million innocent civilians in the Holocaust.17

Conclusion
Nietzsche shook his fist at God, but Nietzsche is dead and God is not. So the last word belongs to God.[/I]

Read more:http://creation.com/nietzsche-anti-god-anti-darwin

Like so many homosexuals do, Friedrich Nietzsche obviously had a deep seated HATRED of God.
The Creation Ministries, Hitler, Darwin and a 19th Century Philosopher, wow what an interesting eclectic mix aCW?

However, I sense a corrupt concoction of creationist spin, propaganda and homophobic misinformation rather than any attempt to match reality.

1, The Creation Ministries pay little heed to peer reviewed scientific conclusions when they contradict a literal Genesis, they are simply deemed wrong regardless of facts or evidence.

2, Nietzsche didn't believe in an actual "God", he thought the concept only existed in human minds, and by a growing disbelief humans were killing off that concept, not an actual entity.
Logically only a theist can hate a god, so logically he didn't actually hate any god.

3,Simply combining Hitler and Darwin is blatant dishonesty because it can't help but summon up "Social Darwinism" as an ideology which is nothing to do with Darwin's Theory of Evolution, nor Darwin personally.

The misinformation goes on and on apparently, so abandon hope all ye who enter this thread. :devil:
 

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The Creation Ministries, Hitler, Darwin and a 19th Century Philosopher, wow what an interesting eclectic mix aCW?

However, I sense a corrupt concoction of creationist spin, propaganda and homophobic misinformation rather than any attempt to match reality.

1, The Creation Ministries pay little heed to peer reviewed scientific conclusions when they contradict a literal Genesis, they are simply deemed wrong regardless of facts or evidence.

2, Nietzsche didn't believe in an actual "God", he thought the concept only existed in human minds, and by a growing disbelief humans were killing off that concept, not an actual entity.
Logically only a theist can hate a god, so logically he didn't actually hate any god.

3,Simply combining Hitler and Darwin is blatant dishonesty because it can't help but summon up "Social Darwinism" as an ideology which is nothing to do with Darwin's Theory of Evolution, nor Darwin personally.

The misinformation goes on and on apparently, so abandon hope all ye who enter this thread. :devil:
Thank you for pointing these things out, alwight.

He also completely misreads Nietzsche's phenomenology, and the existentialism which is evoked in all of his works; moreover, the poetic, symbolic, and transcendent meaning words such as "God", "woman", "Jew" held for Nietzsche. N is not for the literal-minded, and he would never, ever have approved of the herd mentality of anti-semiticsm or of Nazism or fascism.

Humankind from time immemorial has misused, twisted, and altered theorists' and religious persons' ideas for their own vulgar ends; Thus did they do to Nietzsche (and as you point out, to Darwin). Also to Jesus himself.
 

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Thank you for pointing these things out, alwight.

He also completely misreads Nietzsche's phenomenology, and the existentialism which is evoked in all of his works; moreover, the poetic, symbolic, and transcendent meaning words such as "God", "woman", "Jew" held for Nietzsche. N is not for the literal-minded, and he would never, ever have approved of the herd mentality of anti-semiticsm or of Nazism or fascism.

Humankind from time immemorial has misused, twisted, and altered theorists' and religious persons' ideas for their own vulgar ends; Thus did they do to Nietzsche (and as you point out, to Darwin). Also to Jesus himself.
Yup, that's what aCW does for sure, but fortunately not very well perhaps judging by results so far, and certainly not by Hitler's standards perhaps. ;)
 

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
...Conclusion
Nietzsche shook his fist at God, but Nietzsche is dead and God is not. So the last word belongs to God.

Read more: http://creation.com/nietzsche-anti-god-anti-darwin

Like so many homosexuals do, Friedrich Nietzsche obviously had a deep seated HATRED of God.

Nietzsche didn't believe in an actual "God"...

Based on all of the reviews I've read about Freddy Nietzsche over the years by Christian theologians, I'd have to agree that he didn't believe in the God of the Holy Bible, in fact Nietzsche was a hardcore atheist; hence the reason Freddy is so popular with his fellow homosexuals.

On a side note Al: You being an older sodomite and all, what gives with the younger sodomites that aren't proud of the 'gay identity'?

Take for instance this one who appears to be ashamed that Friedrich Nietzsche was a faggot:

.... I'm afraid you can't take a queer site's word for it, that he was gay.
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4043924&postcount=2124

GayForReal7 obviously needs to be re-educated so that he doesn't say things like that again that will bring nothing but embarrassment to the sodomite community. (Can you believe it, GayForReal7 acts like filthy unnatural sex, disease, misery and dying decades before your time is something to be ashamed of!).

I must say that Freddy Nietzsche had quite the following when it came to homosexuals. Back later with more on Nietzsche.
 
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I see that GayForReal7 has used a link by homosexualist Warren Throckmorton as an attempt to discredit the work of Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams (refer to the table of contents in Part 1 where it's shown that Throckmorton has become a strong ally of the homosexual movement).
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4043942&postcount=2126

Now let's see what Lively and Abrams have to say about Friedrich Nietzsche in their book "The Pink Swastika" :

Friedrich Nietzsche

Among the several men who have been dubbed “the Father of National Socialism” (including Jorg Lanz von Liebenfels), Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844-1900) is probably most deserving of this distinction, being so labeled by Nazi luminaries Alfred Rosenberg and
Hans Frank (Peters:221)11. Others have called him the“Father of Fascism” (ibid.:ix). Rabidly anti-Christian and a homosexual, Nietzsche notoriously proclaimed that “God is dead” and contributed to the development of existentialist philosophy. Nietzsche’s publisher, Peter Gast, called Nietzsche “one of the fiercest anti-Christians and atheists,” and described his book, The Antichrist, as
a “ferocious curse” on Christianity (ibid.:119).
Nietzsche
called Christianity and democracy the moralities of the
“weak herd,” and argued for the “natural aristocracy” of
the Uuebermensch or superman, whose “will to power”
was grounded in the material world (Thomas E. Wren
“Nietzsche,” in Grolier Encyclopedia, 2002).
According to Macintyre in Forgotten Fatherland: The Search For Elisabeth Nietzsche, Frederich Nietzsche never married and had no known female sex partners, but went insane at age 44 and eventually died of syphilis. According to Sigmund Freud
and Carl Jung, Nietzsche had caught the disease at a homosexual brothel in Genoa, Italy (McIntyre:91f)12. In 1908, Freud wrote, “Nietzsche directed his attention to the only homosexual, namely, his own ego” (Kohler:214).

Nietzsche’s unflattering opinion of women was widely known. His works were “peppered with attacks against women,” and, like the pederasts of the Community of the Elite, he relegated women to the role of breeders and sexual slaves. Men, on the other hand were to be bred for war (Agonito:265f)13. One of Nietzsche’s closest friends (for a time) and another hero of Adolf Hitler was Richard Wagner, the composer. Wagner was the subject of a 1903 book by Hans
Fuchs called Richard Wagner und die Homosexualitaet (“Richard Wagner and Homosexuality”) in which Fuchs recommends art as a means for homosexual emancipation (Oosterhuis and Kennedy:86)14. We do not know whether Wagner was homosexual, although Hitler is reported to have identified him as one. In Kurt Ludecke’s
I Knew Hitler, the Fuehrer said the following when the issue of homosexuality among the Brownshirts was raised: “Ach, why should I concern myself with the private lives of my followers!....I love Richard Wagner’s music -- must I shut my ears to it because he
was a pederast? The whole thing’s absurd” (Ludeke:477f)15.


---The Pink Swastika, Chapter 3, pages 6-8
http://www.scottlively.net/wp-conte...nk-Swastika-Chapter-3-V-1.1-The-Football1.pdf

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Much more later on the homosexual Friedrich Nietzsche.
 

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Sorry, your source is doo-doo.
Lively and Abrams are false Nietzsche scholars.
None of their "facts" are legitimate.
Already refuted.
Have fun.
:wave2:

BUH BYE!

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
...Conclusion
Nietzsche shook his fist at God, but Nietzsche is dead and God is not. So the last word belongs to God.

Read more: http://creation.com/nietzsche-anti-god-anti-darwin

Like so many homosexuals do, Friedrich Nietzsche obviously had a deep seated HATRED of God.



Based on all of the reviews I've read about Freddy Nietzsche over the years by Christian theologians, I'd have to agree that he didn't believe in the God of the Holy Bible, in fact Nietzsche was a hardcore atheist; hence the reason Freddy is so popular with his fellow homosexuals.
He believed that humanity would eventually evolve beyond the need for any religious mumbo-jumbo aCW, more specifically for him was Christianity. Clearly you haven't even evolved past Young Earth Creationism which is probably the step before modern Christianity. You're just an evolutionary throwback aCW.;)
Presumably you do now accept that as a "hard core" atheist and esteemed philosopher, he could not logically have a "HATRED" for something he didn't believe existed, right?

On a side note Al: You being an older sodomite and all, what gives with the younger sodomites that aren't proud of the 'gay identity'?
Sodomy is something that both gay and straight people may or may not do, so what you are driving at here isn't too clear, while clearly you have no clue what I personally may or may not do, it's somewhat beside the point.
Anyway Nietzsche was too old to be gay, right aCW? :rolleyes:

Take for instance this one who appears to be ashamed that Friedrich Nietzsche was a faggot:


http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4043924&postcount=2124
Whereas this one is simply a cretin:
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3393262&postcount=17
 

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Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

Based on all of the reviews I've read about Freddy Nietzsche over the years by Christian theologians, I'd have to agree that he didn't believe in the God of the Holy Bible, in fact Nietzsche was a hardcore atheist; hence the reason Freddy is so popular with his fellow homosexuals.

He believed that humanity would eventually evolve beyond the need for any religious mumbo-jumbo aCW, more specifically for him was Christianity....

How's that 'moral evolution' that Freddy talked about coming along Al? With 57+ million babies murdered in the womb (here in the US alone) in the past 41 years and children as young or younger than 13 contracting a deadly incurable sexually transmitted disease, I personally think life without Christian doctrine "aint too good".

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On a side note Al: You being an older sodomite and all, what gives with the younger sodomites that aren't proud of the 'gay identity'?

Sodomy is something that both gay and straight people may or may not do, so what you are driving at here isn't too clear, while clearly you have no clue what I personally may or may not do, it's somewhat beside the point.
Anyway Nietzsche was too old to be gay, right aCW?

What I'm "driving at" here Al is that I'm astounded that many of todays sodomites aren't "proud" that someone like the intellectual/God HATING atheist Friedrich Nietzsche was a practicing homosexual. Based on your last sentence, I'm getting the feeling that you're agreeing with GayForReal7 that he wasn't one either.

Was Friedrich Nietzsche "too old to be a practicing homosexual?"

Being that he died of syphilis that he contracted in a homosexual brothel in Italy at the ripe old age of 44, I'd say that Freddy Nietzsche was...

your typical homosexual.
 

GFR7

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1. Just because I studied Nietzsche as part of my philosophy studies, and did an honors thesis on him, and enjoy and know by heart some of his maxims, does not make me a "Nietzschean".

I adhere (philosophically speaking)
to the Protestant Christian existentialist, Kierkegaard.


2. Of course I don't want him to be gay;
I am against much of the gay movement,
and it waters him down and makes him too postmodern- LGBTQ. :AMR1:

3. Kierkegaard died at 42. Nietzsche was 56 when he died (1844 - 1900 ).

4. There is NO evidence that the brothel N visited while in the army in his 20s ! was a homosexual one.
This is a fantasy of the LGBTQ movement: the same fantasy they have about Washington, Lincoln, Nixon, Hamilton, etc.
 
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