Why B57 Haunts My Threads

[TulipBee]

They haunt each other

 

[Robert Pate]

They haunt each other

Not true. I don't respond to the articles that B57 post.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

God's Spirit is in the world calling all to come to Christ and be saved. Some hear the call and become Christians. Others hear the call, but instead of coming to Christ they become religious or join a cult. Calvinism is attractive because it is about you being chosen by God. The first words out of a Calvinist mouth is..."I have been predestinated" like that is the Gospel. That is not the Gospel.

B57 is under conviction. For years he has been haunting my threads making one line statements that he believes refutes what I am saying. I teach the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ as the only means of ones salvation. Of course this refutes Calvinism, because they believe that they were predestinated to salvation before the foundation of the world. Some believe that God makes them believe the Gospel, which makes man nothing more than a robot. Paul wrote that, "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" which is the Gospel, Romans 10:17.

Just because some one is under conviction does not mean that they are going to become a Christian. What it means is that the Spirit of God is convicting them that they are wrong, but they are not willing to come to the truth. The Pharisees were under conviction, but they could not come to the truth and be saved. Instead they wanted to murder Jesus so as to shut him up, especially after what he said to them in the 23rd chapter of Matthew.

Some hear and believe, others hear and become angry. The Jews followed Paul everywhere that he went. Paul was beaten by them many times and at one time they left him for dead. If you are preaching the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. Then you should expect some resistance. If there is no resistance then maybe you don't have or know what the Gospel is.

Excellent OP.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Here we go again, quoting scripture, but not believing it or understanding it. Explain that scripture ! Even still you dont believe that Christ death alone saved anyone, which is unbelief !

Keep posting, nobodies taking you seriously.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You have a perverted and twisted view of the nature and character of God.

The God that "So loves the world that he gives his only begotten Son" is the God that you should believe in.

Not the God that damns billions to hell before they are born.

The false God of Calvinism will not save you.

True.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Your question is a diversion tactic.

It has nothing to do whatsoever with the discussion of this thread!

Just admit you don't know.

 

[beloved57]

Not true. I don't respond to the articles that B57 post.

Thats your right , because this is a public forum !

If its things you want to say that you dont want me to publically read, then say them in private !

 

[Robert Pate]

Thats your right , because this is a public forum !

If its things you want to say that you dont want me to publically read, then say them in private !

If it isn't about Calvinism you don't read it.

 

[beloved57]

If it isn't about Calvinism you don't read it.

It's all about your savior freewill!

 

[Nanja]

Pate

Some believe that God makes them believe the Gospel, which makes man nothing more than a robot. Paul wrote that, "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" which is the Gospel, Romans 10:17.

According to the scriptures, first a person must be Of God to be able to Hear God's Words!

John 8:43,47
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.


The Hearing of God's Words which are Spiritual 1 Cor. 2:13, is only made possible by one whom God has Given them His Spirit in New Birth, of which Faith is a fruit and effect of being Of God.

So yes, God is the First Cause of a person being Given Hearing Ears to hear and believe the Gospel of God's Eternal Grace in Christ 2 Tim. 1:9.


Prov. 20:12
The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.


Gal. 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

God is calling all to come to Christ. You want to believe that he is devisive.

No.

He is not.

It is not a blanket calling of all.

God responds to the prayers of His people,

Otherwise one must think God does not care about the Moslem world.

LA

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Exactly Right, Brother! Pate's claim is that Christ died for all men without exception, yet many will wind up in hell.

That's blasphemy against the efficacy of the Blood of Christ to Save all for whom it was shed.

But yet, that's the false gospel of works Pate preaches in every post of his I've ever read in my 3 years here on the forum.


According to the scriptures, Salvation by Grace is discriminate to those Chosen of the Father In Union with Christ before the foundation of the world to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love, and predestinated to become His Adopted Children Eph. 1:4-5; only a remnant of all humanity Is. 1:9.

But for all the rest, there is no possibility of Salvation.

They are referred to as reprobates, castaways Titus 1:16, the seed of the serpent, the seed of the wicked, tares John 8:44; Ps. 37:28; Mat. 13:38: Those who go into perdition 2 Pet. 3:7, and Vessels of Wrath prepared for destruction Rom. 9:22; and those whose minds have been blinded by satan 2 Cor. 4:3-4. For these wicked it was God's Purpose and Pleasure to create them that way Job 23:13-14, for God never loved them!

These scriptures prove that Salvation, and whom God has Chosen to receive it, is based solely upon on those He discriminately elected to be partakers of His Grace through the Redemption that is In Christ Jesus Rom. 3:24, and not by any work of the mind or flesh [ergon] they do, perform or meet, or choose by their freewill.

Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

You are wrong also.

You can sit on your hands and do nothing if you want but if you did what this verse says then you would reap something.

If you do not then you will reap nothing.

Psa 126:5 They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
Psa 126:6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

LA

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Actually men do decide if they want to be saved or not.

It is only after they are called and get to know somrthing of Jesus Christ while in their right mind that they are sealed, if they want.

LA

 

[Nanja]

You are wrong also.

You can sit on your hands and do nothing if you want but if you did what this verse says then you would reap something.

If you do not then you will reap nothing.

Psa 126:5 They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
Psa 126:6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

LA

Unless a person has been Born of the Spirit of God Rom. 8:9, nothing they do can please Him.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


The ones spoken of in Ps. 126:5-6 are His Elect Ones Chosen in Christ to be God's Adopted Sons Eph. 1:4-5.

He Causes them to walk in a straight way Jer. 31:9: His Spiritual Seed Israel, the only ones Promised Salvation Is 45:17!

 

[Robert Pate]

Unless a person has been Born of the Spirit of God Rom. 8:9, nothing they do can please Him.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


The ones spoken of in Ps. 126:5-6 are His Elect Ones Chosen in Christ to be God's Adopted Sons Eph. 1:4-5.

He Causes them to walk in a straight way Jer. 31:9: His Spiritual Seed Israel, the only ones Promised Salvation Is 45:17!

No one can be born of the Spirit without hearing and believing the Gospel, Galatians 3:2.

 

[Nanja]

No one can be born of the Spirit without hearing and believing the Gospel, Galatians 3:2.

No. That's backwards.

No one can hear and believe the Gospel without being Given the Spirit of God in New Birth!

The Hearing of Faith is only for the regenerate, those who have been born again Gal. 5:22.

 

[Bright Raven]

No. That's backwards.

No one can hear and believe the Gospel without being Given the Spirit of God in New Birth!

The Hearing of Faith is only for the regenerate, those who have been born again Gal. 5:22.

Sorry, you're backwards. Pate has it right. You do not receive of the Spirit until you are saved.

 

[Nanja]

Sorry, you're backwards. Pate has it right. You do not receive of the Spirit until you are saved.

You are confused.

Pate says a person hears and believes the Gospel then they are saved [by their works of the flesh].

The scriptures say that first a person is Born Again [the Work of God], then they hear and Believe Gal. 5:22!

 

[Bright Raven]

You are confused.

Pate says a person hears and believes the Gospel then they are saved [by their works of the flesh].

The scriptures say that first a person is Born Again [the Work of God], then they hear and Believe Gal. 5:22!

What you have said is redundant. Both say the same thing.

 

[Nick M]

B57 argues against the good news because he is a demon possessed pervert in the service of Satan